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Post by nephillymike on Aug 21, 2023 19:18:36 GMT -5
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Post by robbieratchet on Aug 22, 2023 15:16:43 GMT -5
Yeah, they lost me after the first paragraph. Fucking hacks.
Still, as I've warned many - yes, the communists are going to keep him off the ballot in Arizona, PA, Michigan, etc. This is one of the justifications they'll use.
I hope I live long enough to watch "moderate" conservatives quote the Constitution as they're being loaded into boxcars.
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Post by One on Aug 23, 2023 18:26:16 GMT -5
They want me to pay them to read that. Oops, left my wallet in the car.  |
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Post by nephillymike on Aug 23, 2023 21:29:31 GMT -5
Trying to be objective, it’s not a stretch to see that the law as written could apply to Trump. Those Federalists legal scholars are heavy weights.
I think what Trumps team needs to do pronto, is go thru political history and find examples of where people were allowed to be in government when they would have otherwise been excluded under this clause of the Constitution.
I have no idea what that search would produce, but they need to get right on it.
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Post by robbieratchet on Aug 24, 2023 18:05:22 GMT -5
Trying to be objective, it’s not a stretch to see that the law as written could apply to Trump. Those Federalists legal scholars are heavy weights. I think what Trumps team needs to do pronto, is go thru political history and find examples of where people were allowed to be in government when they would have otherwise been excluded under this clause of the Constitution. I have no idea what that search would produce, but they need to get right on it. Does that sound objective to you? Laurence Tribe is a communist hack who wanted Trump impeached about 50 times in 4 years, and he's not a member of the Federalist Society. Luttig is a Never-Trumper Republican. Surely you can use Google, no? I understand this will be one of the things used to justify keeping him off the ballot. That doesn't make it legitimate. I'm pretty sure I can use that same clause to put every member of Congress in jail. In x number of years, somebody will. |
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Post by nephillymike on Aug 25, 2023 21:37:42 GMT -5
I’m looking forward to a trial in GA n television.
Take a seat.
Put your hand on the Bible.
Tell us what you did, what you know.
Have real cross examination, unlike the pussies of the J6 “hearings”.
Let the American public see for themselves who is telling the truth and who is full of shit.
Having them televised in an odd way can lessen the impact of venue.
At this point, I think the public can see thru bullshit.
Get it on, and soon!!
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Post by One on Aug 26, 2023 7:07:36 GMT -5
Probably 40 years ago I was driving to a meeting. My wife was pregnant so I was using her car, a '74 Vette. I was accelerating onto I-95 and enjoying every gear, maybe a little too much, but a few cars passed me nonetheless. A NJ State Trooper pulled me over and said I was exceeding the posted speed limit. I asked him why he stopped me when others were passing me. His response was that "a Corvette is worth more in the pool." He didn't stop me because I was speeding as much as it was about what I was driving.
What we're seeing isn't about the law and it's not so much about Trump. It is about him, but it's more about his followers and the people who see what's behind the curtain. It's a warning, a demonstration of power. This is a classic communist takeover, and I think you know me well enough to know I'm not prone to overreaction. I have friends who are ecstatic seeing Trump's mugshot. They hate the man so much they aren't able to see all of the lies that led up to this. They look away when people point out what robbie has in his thread. Why is he being prosecuted for transgressions that are common among politicians and the elite? Because it benefits their end. It divides and weakens us, and it criminalizes all those who support him, further dividing us and strengthening them.
Lots of rumors about another lockdown. Masks are coming back. Watch if it happens.
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Post by nephillymike on Aug 26, 2023 14:26:59 GMT -5
What transgressions that are common to the Elites are you referring to?
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Post by One on Aug 26, 2023 18:56:09 GMT -5
What transgressions that are common to the Elites are you referring to? I notice you left politicians off of your comment, so I assume there's no argument there. I also think it's naive to accept that the very wealthy, connected elite haven't participated in: election interference; conspiracy to defraud the government; obstruction; false statements; or, falsifying business records. Reviewing both the Obama years and the Trump administration I don't think there'd be any difficulty finding numerous examples that would prove my point. Did I leave anything out? |
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Post by nephillymike on Aug 26, 2023 22:01:03 GMT -5
I did not mean to leave politicians out.
Does their inclusion expand the list any?
If you are correct, than it should be fairly simple for Trumps defense team to show how rampant this “ violation” has been, right?
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Post by One on Aug 27, 2023 6:53:27 GMT -5
Do politicians participate in election interference, conspiracy to defraud the government, obstruction, make false statements? I think it's part of the job description.
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Post by robbieratchet on Aug 27, 2023 17:45:21 GMT -5
It's Federally illegal to offer money to someone in exchange for their vote, or registering to vote. Is that not the entire Democratic Party's platform?
We know that it's standard practice for them to offer cigarettes to homeless people to vote, ballot harvesting, etc.
Eventually someone will be elected (likely at the state level) who starts throwing people in jail left and right. It's just a matter of time.
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Post by robbieratchet on Aug 27, 2023 18:12:40 GMT -5
At this point, I think the public can see thru bullshit. Honestly, if you said this to me in person I'd probably scream at you. |
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Post by nephillymike on Aug 27, 2023 18:42:24 GMT -5
At this point, I think the public can see thru bullshit. Honestly, if you said this to me in person I'd probably scream at you. I’ll rephrase it. If the trial is televised for people to see, enough people will see thru the bullshit to determine the outcome of the next Presidential election. If Tump exposes bullshit, the Republicans win handily. If the trial reveals that he knew he lost and did what he did despite of it, then the Dems will win handily. The chance for clarity is appealing. |
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Post by robbieratchet on Aug 28, 2023 12:24:39 GMT -5
Honestly, if you said this to me in person I'd probably scream at you. I’ll rephrase it. If the trial is televised for people to see, enough people will see thru the bullshit to determine the outcome of the next Presidential election. If Tump exposes bullshit, the Republicans win handily. If the trial reveals that he knew he lost and did what he did despite of it, then the Dems will win handily. The chance for clarity is appealing. Fair enough. Which is why they won't televise his whole trial. They'll focus on whatever they want you to see. |
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Post by One on Sept 3, 2023 6:12:07 GMT -5
I’ll rephrase it. If the trial is televised for people to see, enough people will see thru the bullshit to determine the outcome of the next Presidential election. If Tump exposes bullshit, the Republicans win handily. If the trial reveals that he knew he lost and did what he did despite of it, then the Dems will win handily. The chance for clarity is appealing. Fair enough. Which is why they won't televise his whole trial. They'll focus on whatever they want you to see. We all know people who simply recite the mainstream talking points and refuse to accept any possibility that the story is completely different. The hill to climb to get those people to just think is so steep I'll never see the summit in my lifetime, and it's likely it will never be attained. Huxley said "the greater part of the population is not very intelligent, dreads responsibility, and desires nothing better than to be told what to do. Provided the rulers do not interfere with it's material comforts and it's cherished beliefs, it's perfectly happy to let itself be ruled." I'd add that they desire to be told what to think. The general population is usually more comfortable with conservative leadership, experience less buying power and higher crime with "liberal" leadership but keep pulling the leaver for poor and dangerous. |
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Post by nephillymike on Sept 5, 2023 4:48:18 GMT -5
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