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Post by One on Aug 12, 2023 6:59:35 GMT -5
How much clearer can it be that the occupant of the White House and the administration he oversees is transparently corrupt? With all due respect to those who suggest otherwise, that we are in a better place than we were with the previous administration, this administration has taken significant steps to make America a banana republic. This isn't partisan hyperbole, they have appointed the individual who unsuccessfully tried to charge Hunter with misdemeanors, that were felonies for us, as Special Counsel to investigate the president's son. They're not even trying to hide it, even though the mainstream media skips right over it. And they appear to be doing this in contradiction to the law. 28 CFR § 600.3 - Qualifications of the Special Counsel
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Post by nephillymike on Aug 12, 2023 9:06:15 GMT -5
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Post by nephillymike on Aug 12, 2023 9:20:31 GMT -5
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Post by One on Aug 12, 2023 11:27:18 GMT -5
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Post by nephillymike on Aug 13, 2023 20:53:48 GMT -5
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Post by One on Aug 14, 2023 13:58:06 GMT -5
Let's be overly objective with this and assume this is just another righty trying to spin the story.
Personally I can't wrap my head around that perspective, but even if that is the case, Sund is offering enough substance to cause any and all objective reporters to speak about it and investigate his claims. The fact that he's saying these things should be at the top of every news program and every news website. I don't watch the news so I don't know if they're reporting it, but I don't see it covered on any of the mainstream sites.
If this doesn't concern every freedom loving person in the world, including lurkers, there's a problem. The man who was Capitol Police Chief at the time of the "insurrection" is publicly intimating that the "riot" was instigated by the Democrats and their cohorts. If what he says is true, the people who were arrested and placed in gulag-like prison are not the criminals they are accused of being, they are victims of a tyrannical government. And the Fourth Estate is silent!
I'm saddened that people we know who are honest and caring won't talk with us about this kind of thing. True or false, these accusations from a man of that stature is reminiscent of the years preceding our independence.
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Post by nephillymike on Aug 14, 2023 19:11:09 GMT -5
Let's be overly objective with this and assume this is just another righty trying to spin the story. Personally I can't wrap my head around that perspective, but even if that is the case, Sund is offering enough substance to cause any and all objective reporters to speak about it and investigate his claims. The fact that he's saying these things should be at the top of every news program and every news website. I don't watch the news so I don't know if they're reporting it, but I don't see it covered on any of the mainstream sites. If this doesn't concern every freedom loving person in the world, including lurkers, there's a problem. The man who was Capitol Police Chief at the time of the "insurrection" is publicly intimating that the "riot" was instigated by the Democrats and their cohorts. If what he says is true, the people who were arrested and placed in gulag-like prison are not the criminals they are accused of being, they are victims of a tyrannical government. And the Fourth Estate is silent! I'm saddened that people we know who are honest and caring won't talk with us about this kind of thing. True or false, these accusations from a man of that stature is reminiscent of the years preceding our independence. True. If you are a Trump hating lefty you should relish at the opportunity to expose this guy as a fraud. Instead, no engagement. You’re right, it should be at the top of everyone’s newscast. The thing being reported is that the Right is crying when they finally assigned a special council after months of saying they wanted one. Really? Who in their right mind would ever think that the Right would be happy with appointing the guy who slow walked the investigation and crafted the plea deals to end all plea deals? Are people really that fucking stupid?
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Post by nephillymike on Aug 14, 2023 19:26:23 GMT -5
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Post by nephillymike on Aug 15, 2023 4:51:39 GMT -5
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Post by One on Aug 15, 2023 8:27:18 GMT -5
No. Saul Alinsky was brilliant and his disciples have been especially effective. This is why Hillary was almost elected and why Obama was elected. We are a hopelessly divided people and most of us embrace it, even knowing how destructive it is. Even though the plan is transparent, it's working. The cake is teachers and school administrators, the icing is the mainstream media and the courts. We teach children to obey and follow, not to question and lead. Children grow up to become judges and journalists. Almost all of us celebrated the end of segregation and watch as it is reintroduced as redemption. What was evil is reborn and glorified. Opinion is now science, data is chosen not proven, and dissention is evil and censored. Our laws are fluid and selective. People aren't stupid, they're trained and deceived. We're living in an era of absolutes because we are loyal to our team. Right or wrong, good or bad, we stand by them. To the end.
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Post by One on Aug 15, 2023 8:48:24 GMT -5
There is a growing number of people who are waking up to the purpose of the J6 committee. Millions of people watched and followed the proceedings assuming at least some of the testimony and evidence was an honest reflection of what happened. People believed it was the worst thing that happened since Pearl Harbor. They ignored what the committee members had said and done in the preceding four years and the reams of data that contradicted what they were telling us, data that was ignored by the committee. It never made sense, except it all made perfect sense. It was a set-up from the start, not just the committee, the entire "insurrection"! As more and more evidence is revealed, as more voices are heard, it becomes alarming that so many people put any credence into the scam. It's a tragedy that so many continue to think it was real.
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Post by One on Aug 15, 2023 9:11:52 GMT -5
There was a time when a Special Counsel would be appointed to purposefully avoid any thought of bias, the news media would demand it. But it's a summer night in bumfuck, only crickets and "tribal righties."
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Post by nephillymike on Aug 15, 2023 16:36:23 GMT -5
to be clear, at this point in time, I am no where near agreeing it was a set up with trump being a patsy. However, there are some things that need to be openly discussed and debated. Too bad the J6 panel didn't allow that.
Call them all up. Take a seat, bring your own bible. Tell me what you know in the presence of people who will critically question the claims.
The major thing that, I think, points to Trump's guilt, is all of the people in his inner circle who testified in J6 and since opined against him. Here's a guy who is leading by almost 30%, and all these tag alongs have deserted him. I forgot where I saw it, but there was a list of people who turned on Trump and what their positions were in his administration. To me that's the most damning.
But let's let it play out. Have Trump take a seat and tell us what he knows. Besides locking himself up, hopefully he incriminates a lot more of the swamp, Dems and Repubs alike.
CLEAN IT UP !!
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Post by One on Aug 16, 2023 6:38:40 GMT -5
to be clear, at this point in time, I am no where near agreeing it was a set up with trump being a patsy. However, there are some things that need to be openly discussed and debated. Too bad the J6 panel didn't allow that. As far as I'm concerned the point isn't about Trump's innocence or guilt. I think he handled himself poorly - not unusual - but I don't think there was a time when he thought he didn't win the election and I don't think he intended to incite a riot. He was being him which is why he shouldn't be president. The committee was comprised only of people who hated Trump plus they hid exculpatory evidence. No matter how you slice it that's not a "fair trial." They knew it. That was the intent and it continues to be the intent. Regardless of guilt or innocence Trump has been and continues to be treated differently than any other POTUS in history. Not only is it blasphemous to the concept of American justice, what they did and continue doing is enraging and strengthening his MAGA base and further dividing the country. That's not good for anyone other than our enemies. Leave him alone and let him bury himself, that's something he'd be very good at. If you watched Tucker's interview of the former Capitol Police Chief it's hard to not come away believing J6 was an intentional set-up. They kept vital intelligence from him and refused support when he pleaded for it. People like Ray Epps were recorded inciting the crowd but weren't charged while people who were essentially invited into the building were arrested and remain jailed. Videos show Capitol doors opened from the inside, guards escorting "insurrectionists" through the building - videos which derail their narrative and were kept from evidence. All of this is still ignored by the mainstream news. When viewed separately, all of the pieces to this puzzle are not nearly as nefarious as when we see the pattern, one that started with the escalator. He's an outsider and he spits on the rules. Despite of the valid complaints we have against the man, he has successfully pulled back the curtain on the deep (administrative) state. That's why they need to discredit and emasculate him. They can't put the genie back in the bottle, but they can punish him. In doing that they're exposing who they really are, elitist tyrants. Keep the focus and vitriol on Trump and away from a corrupted system. That's the point.
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Post by nephillymike on Aug 16, 2023 18:43:30 GMT -5
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Post by One on Aug 17, 2023 6:55:07 GMT -5
This should be clear to any intellectually honest person.
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Post by nephillymike on Aug 23, 2023 15:38:39 GMT -5
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