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Post by rumply on Apr 8, 2023 18:32:57 GMT -5
NOOOO!!! NEVER take a back high in the draft or pay a lot for one. NEVER!!!! I disagree about the first part. If someone special is in the available in the first round, I would seriously consider taking him. But I would take him with the conviction it will be for a four to five year ride and then letting him go Yep agree & especially if you believe that player could be the piece needed to complete your offence & go all the way.
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Post by gadgetrick on Apr 9, 2023 8:13:16 GMT -5
NOOOO!!! NEVER take a back high in the draft or pay a lot for one. NEVER!!!! I disagree about the first part. If someone special is in the available in the first round, I would seriously consider taking him. But I would take him with the conviction it will be for a four to five year ride and then letting him go But why? You have first-hand experience with a RB picked high and then paid a lot. How many playoff wins does Dallas have with him? Again, teams have done this and it doesn't work out in the end. Pick up one from FA and use the high pick or money to sign positions, which actually will help improve their chances of winning that last game.
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Post by eyrie on Apr 9, 2023 13:00:21 GMT -5
I disagree about the first part. If someone special is in the available in the first round, I would seriously consider taking him. But I would take him with the conviction it will be for a four to five year ride and then letting him go Yep agree & especially if you believe that player could be the piece needed to complete your offence & go all the way. I understand the logic but in reality you're competing with yourself when you do that in the first round, particularly in the first twenty picks, as no other team will be drafting a RB that early because there are more valuable positions to be addressed. You're not going to find another Jim Brown and even a Walter Payton, Steve van Buren or Barry Sanders isn't worth it in the modern NFL.
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Post by robbieratchet on Apr 9, 2023 19:51:58 GMT -5
BaRry SaNderS isN't wOrtH iT
My god.
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Post by dreagon on Apr 10, 2023 1:02:20 GMT -5
Yep agree & especially if you believe that player could be the piece needed to complete your offence & go all the way. I understand the logic but in reality you're competing with yourself when you do that in the first round, particularly in the first twenty picks, as no other team will be drafting a RB that early because there are more valuable positions to be addressed. You're not going to find another Jim Brown and even a Walter Payton, Steve van Buren or Barry Sanders isn't worth it in the modern NFL. Our mistake wasn't picking him. His production those first years was fine. I can think of several games he outright won for us. Our mistake was not letting him go after four years, but signing him to that big contract instead. Edit: My bad. This was supposed to be a reply to Gadgetrick
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Post by gadgetrick on Apr 10, 2023 5:53:39 GMT -5
Yep agree & especially if you believe that player could be the piece needed to complete your offence & go all the way. I understand the logic but in reality you're competing with yourself when you do that in the first round, particularly in the first twenty picks, as no other team will be drafting a RB that early because there are more valuable positions to be addressed. You're not going to find another Jim Brown and even a Walter Payton, Steve van Buren or Barry Sanders isn't worth it in the modern NFL. Thank you!
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Post by gadgetrick on Apr 10, 2023 5:56:13 GMT -5
I understand the logic but in reality you're competing with yourself when you do that in the first round, particularly in the first twenty picks, as no other team will be drafting a RB that early because there are more valuable positions to be addressed. You're not going to find another Jim Brown and even a Walter Payton, Steve van Buren or Barry Sanders isn't worth it in the modern NFL. Our mistake wasn't picking him. His production those first years was fine. I can think of several games he outright won for us. Our mistake was not letting him go after four years, but signing him to that big contract instead. Edit: My bad. This was supposed to be a reply to Gadgetrick Actually, it did hurt picking him. They could have used that pick to get something else they could have used to actually WIN in the playoffs. This is exactly my point. Sure, got great production out of him but what did you WIN with him? No matter how great he was, they still never went anywhere in the playoffs with him. Sure, you could make the argument he didn't cost them wins--not directly. However, he did cost wins indirectly by taking up a high-value draft pick and then costing them a lot of money. Same with Saquon Barkley with the vaGiants. This is exactly why you shouldn't use high-value picks or a lot of money on a RB...
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Post by rumply on Apr 10, 2023 15:14:33 GMT -5
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Post by gadgetrick on Apr 15, 2023 6:49:01 GMT -5
Even with numbers backing it up, you still won't believe it. This is just another reason you should NOT waste high draft picks or money on a RB.
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