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Post by nephillymike on Nov 23, 2022 13:54:28 GMT -5
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 23, 2022 18:44:55 GMT -5
Oh shit everyone - the career bureaucrat who as AG allowed the FBI to turn into the KGB, who oversaw several months of riots and terrorism nationwide while doing nothing, and who allowed an election to be stolen is telling us to move on.
The level of narcissism it takes to write something like that.....or his enablers who post it.
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Post by One on Nov 24, 2022 11:33:43 GMT -5
Oh shit everyone - the career bureaucrat who as AG allowed the FBI to turn into the KGB, who oversaw several months of riots and terrorism nationwide while doing nothing, and who allowed an election to be stolen is telling us to move on. The level of narcissism it takes to write something like that.....or his enablers who post it. Barr probably carries his Swamp membership card everywhere he goes, but he made some good points there - the positive points about Trump as well as the negative. Speaking only for myself, I voted against Hillary and against Biden as opposed to for Trump. I appreciate his many accomplishments, especially exposing hypocrisy, mendacity, tyranny and traitorous acts of so many of our elected "representatives." He submitted himself to relentless abuse and attacks on himself, his family and all who supported him to "make America great again." For that I will always be thankful. But his weaknesses and faults were/are almost as destructive to the country as his successes were to our benefit. He seems to have disciplined himself and come under a bit more control of his destructive demeanor, but the damage he did by it will never be forgotten by his haters and we all have to find more middle ground if we are ever to attain what Trump tried to give us.
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 24, 2022 13:50:31 GMT -5
Good stuff One. If he bows out gracefully, I think we win the next election in a landslide.
If he doesn’t, it will do real damage come next election.
We’ll learn more about Trump the next few months. He holds a lot of our chances in his actions in the near future.
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 25, 2022 17:43:06 GMT -5
Speaking only for myself, I voted against Hillary and against Biden as opposed to for Trump. I appreciate his many accomplishments, especially exposing hypocrisy, mendacity, tyranny and traitorous acts of so many of our elected "representatives." He submitted himself to relentless abuse and attacks on himself, his family and all who supported him to "make America great again." For that I will always be thankful. His greatest accomplishments were preventing that evil cunt from becoming POTUS, and for exposing just how completely corrupt The System is. He did that by being himself. The next System disruptor will do better, and will get even more flack. And so on, and so forth, until someone really breaks through. What brought down his own reign was putting Swamp members in his inner circle, and thinking he could win some of them over. Bill Barr is at the top of that despicable list. If someone like Bannon/Gorka/Miller wrote something similar I'd agree, and in fact I think it is time for him to move on and support someone new. But Barr can shove it up his ass.
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Post by One on Nov 25, 2022 22:24:44 GMT -5
Trump didn't prevent Clinton from being president, we did. The people, who despite a dishonest, biased and corrupt media and deep state, most of us saw what was happening and either voted against the status quo or for a man who vowed to fight for a return to American exceptionalism. It's not that I disagree with most of what you're saying, but until we reach the point of forced correction (aka, armed conflict) we need to reach out to those who haven't been enlightened to the treachery that has permeated our government, media, and elite. Trump pulled back the curtains, but half the country has either refused or avoided looking at what he exposed, many of them because of Trump, his histrionics and his poor communication skills. The country needs a leader who the suburban housewives and enough of the indoctrinated youth will listen to and believe. That's not Donald Trump.
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Post by One on Nov 27, 2022 8:10:53 GMT -5
Here's another one. I have some serious problems with this piece, such as the reporters presumption of guilt in Russiagate, J6 and Mara Lago. Unless he has some serious evidence which hasn't been publicized, this is no more than another partisan hit job that is transparently founded on his hate for Trump. It's not really surprising though, because the Intercept was founded by Pierre Omidyar. Nonetheless, the point is that people will continue to read this tripe, and because it's written and published they will believe it. Critical thought has all but evaporated on the left, from those who have unbridled hate for Trump, and those who have grown up in an education system that teaches what to think instead of how to think. I don't want him running for office because I don't believe he's the leader the country needs, and he will divide the non-progressive left votes sufficiently to hand the globalists another election, one which may very well complete the destruction of our Republic. Maybe an aggressive, albeit prejudiced prosecution by Jack Smith will unfairly take him out of the election, fortify his supporters in support of a better candidate, and sway enough Independents and Democrats to win the election with a solid majority in both houses. Maybe then we can begin the monumental task of dismantling the deep state and the bloated, intrusive federal government. Maybe then we can find a way to hold accountable biased reporters like Risen and regain some semblance of trust in our news media. Maybe then disagreements will be accepted as differences of opinion rather than acts of treason. Maybe children will again be taught a balanced view of the American experiment and appreciate how the world has benefited from our existence and would suffer from our loss. I believe the people of the world are praying for the return of America, because we're their and freedom's last hope. Trump did his part, now he has to allow others to build on what he did.
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 27, 2022 18:17:50 GMT -5
“and in fact I think it’s time that he move on and support someone new”.
We have agreement from the three of us on this point.
Each for slightly different reasons, but it is unanimous and THAT is something to be thankful for!
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 27, 2022 19:25:42 GMT -5
I hear you One.
The media is out of control.
If I were ever to advise our next president, the first thing I would advise them to do is to start a new network news station. CNN, MSNBC, Fox are all full of shit and dishonest.
We need the reporting of the news, the facts, and then honest debate of the opinions. The fact that CNN just finally, 25 months after it was published by the NYPost, admitted to Hunter Biden’s lap top is deplorable.
On the new station, if somebody wants to say NEPM’s candidate is full of shit, that’s fine and acceptable, however, it will be met with equal airtime from another with the opinion that NEPM candidate is great. Opinions will be debated face to face not this pussy shit the two circle jerk societies have lived by in their own little bubble.
After a while, people will flock to that station.
The beginning of getting America back is getting people back to talking and thinking again and must rid ourselves of the quagmire of dishonesty and circle jerk cable news and print media.
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 27, 2022 20:16:34 GMT -5
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 28, 2022 17:52:07 GMT -5
The media is out of control. If I were ever to advise our next president, the first thing I would advise them to do is to start a new network news station. CNN, MSNBC, Fox are all full of shit and dishonest. The beginning of getting America back is getting people back to talking and thinking again and must rid ourselves of the quagmire of dishonesty and circle jerk cable news and print media. I constantly tell MD that he's living in a different time period. This is right out of one of his posts. Nothing you say is technically incorrect and it comes from a good heart, but you're simply living in a fantasy world if you think it's anything other than by design. The media is doing exactly what they're being paid to do. Most mega-corporations are actively threatening or working against Twitter - why? Because apparently Elon Musk is going to let people talk freely. Twitter has 400 million users, and Apple is threatening to get rid of that app in their store. Congressmen/Senators are openly threatening him. The fact that Fox hasn't been forced to get rid of Tucker Carlson yet shocks me. These people want a complete monopoly on all the information you get.
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Post by One on Nov 28, 2022 18:46:50 GMT -5
We can only hope that there are enough people who are still capable of critical thought who will see through all of this. I keep saying it, it's not the media's fault or the Democrats' fault as much as it is the people's fault for blindly believing those they keep saying they don't trust.
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 28, 2022 23:13:29 GMT -5
I hear you Robbie, and it is amusing to watch Twitter get their panties in a bunch. They have to stop him soon or the public will catch on and the mass media will have a much more difficult time putting the genie back in the bottle.
One thing that is concerning with what One says, is that people are not taught to discuss the issues. College and some high schools were once a forum for serious debate about serious issues. That is stifled and that is very alarming because learned suppression destroys democracy.
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Post by md717 on Nov 29, 2022 8:13:18 GMT -5
“and in fact I think it’s time that he move on and support someone new”. We have agreement from the three of us on this point. Each for slightly different reasons, but it is unanimous and THAT is something to be thankful for! Make it four. The hits keep coming, most recently his extended meeting with "Ye" and friends. What he said about Desantis. I vowed never to forgive him for what he said about Ted Cruise during the 2016 campaign, and I haven't. But when it came down to a choice between him and Hillary, I held my nose and voted for him in 2016. When he became the nominee after the Indiana primary, I entered a self-imposed news blackout for weeks. I warmed to him somewhat when he won and began to govern. The contrast between what he did and what Hillary would have done . . . well, I guess we're seeing that right now. I fervently hope he is not the nominee in 2024 - but he's going to be hard to beat with 30% of the base still supporting him and possibly numerous other candidates splitting the rest.
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 29, 2022 16:38:00 GMT -5
Right now it's dead even between Trump and DeSantis. There will be a sprinkling of milquetoast losers in there too of course, just for filler and fundraising. The only other serious contender I can see is if indeed Tucker Carlson gets in, there's been rumors of it.
Oh, and I can't wait for the Liz Cheney 3rd party run. Maybe even with Kinziger as VP. Yeah, that's being discussed in a backroom somewhere right now, count on it. You heard it here first.
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Post by One on Nov 29, 2022 18:13:34 GMT -5
Carlson would be a disaster. Like Trump, stay where you are and do what you do. Elected officials who are not politicians can be enormously effective but they can also be disastrously divisive. Unless we believe an armed conflict is the only way to prevent the progressive left from making this country into Europe-on-steroids and destroying a constitutional republic that effectively guided the world's population into prosperity, we need to find a strong, honest, reliable and effective politician for POTUS. It looks like they actually exist and are becoming more common on the right. There's hope, but the people need to improve their job performance, get their collective heads out of their asses and pay attention. When Reid was still here we used to say we need to watch what he does and stop listening to what he says. Somehow we need to plant that in the brains of the Fetterman morons. How would you like Carlson as press secretary?
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 29, 2022 20:06:12 GMT -5
Carlson would be a disaster. Like Trump, stay where you are and do what you do. Elected officials who are not politicians can be enormously effective but they can also be disastrously divisive. Unless we believe an armed conflict is the only way to prevent the progressive left from making this country into Europe-on-steroids and destroying a constitutional republic that effectively guided the world's population into prosperity, we need to find a strong, honest, reliable and effective politician for POTUS. It looks like they actually exist and are becoming more common on the right. There's hope, but the people need to improve their job performance, get their collective heads out of their asses and pay attention. When Reid was still here we used to say we need to watch what he does and stop listening to what he says. Somehow we need to plant that in the brains of the Fetterman morons. How would you like Carlson as press secretary? I did watch what Reid did - constantly lose when it mattered. Carlson is an extremely effective communicator - if by "disaster" you mean he's going to be called all sorts of names, well yeah that's everyone on our side. Once he speaks in front of the actual nation he would be fine, and in fact he has a rare ability to destroy his opponent while smiling and appearing moderate. He would be an amazing Press Secretary, but we have to get there first. Apparently Musk is about to publish the Twitter files on free speech suppression that occurred before the 2020 election, specifically related to Hunter Biden. That would be a huge wake-up call. I'm still waiting for the TPTB to shut down the internet before that happens.
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 29, 2022 22:43:07 GMT -5
That would be great if Musk did that.
I don’t watch Fox frequently.
If 10 is the god sworn truth and 1 is full of shot liar, where does Carlson rank on that scale in you guys opinion?
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 30, 2022 14:48:41 GMT -5
That would be great if Musk did that. I don’t watch Fox frequently. If 10 is the god sworn truth and 1 is full of shot liar, where does Carlson rank on that scale in you guys opinion? I don't "watch Fox" either - I watch Tucker clips on youtube once every couple days to keep up. You should do the same, you'd be a lot more informed - and I don't mean that as insulting, I mean quite literally he is often the only person in the entire world of media talking about important issues that everyone should be aware of. The fact that he's public enemy #1 of the left should at least pique your interest. Go check out a couple clips.
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Post by One on Nov 30, 2022 18:03:49 GMT -5
That would be great if Musk did that. I don’t watch Fox frequently. If 10 is the god sworn truth and 1 is full of shot liar, where does Carlson rank on that scale in you guys opinion? I don't "watch Fox" either - I watch Tucker clips on youtube once every couple days to keep up. You should do the same, you'd be a lot more informed - and I don't mean that as insulting, I mean quite literally he is often the only person in the entire world of media talking about important issues that everyone should be aware of. The fact that he's public enemy #1 of the left should at least pique your interest. Go check out a couple clips. Tucker deserves all the praise he gets, and considering the left puts all their energy into slandering people who speak the truth, he also deserves all the smack he gets. I don't think he would have the organizational and leadership skills necessary to be an executive at that level. And, I'm also not sure he'd have the political instincts to survive what will be guaranteed relentless attacks like Trump had. I think the Democrats have devolved to that level and are taking less skilled conservatives right along with them. IMO, DeSantis is the perfect personality for dealing with that shit and Tucker is perfect for his press secretary. Drifting a little bit, I had a thought that Trump really isn't too different from Buddy Ryan. Both had a high level of success as HC/POTUS in the regular season yet were unable to do any damage in the playoffs. Both were crafty and aggressive, and often rude and boorish.
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 30, 2022 18:49:21 GMT -5
I don't think he would have the organizational and leadership skills necessary to be an executive at that level. And, I'm also not sure he'd have the political instincts to survive what will be guaranteed relentless attacks like Trump had. Huh?! It's his entire career, surviving constant attacks. What I guarantee you he wouldn't do is put John Bolton and Jared Kushner in his inner circle. Trump was Buddy Ryan if he ran on playing Cunningham and Cris Carter, then once in office he played McMahon instead and released Carter. Oh wait.....
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Post by nephillymike on Dec 2, 2022 20:52:38 GMT -5
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Post by robbieratchet on Dec 3, 2022 11:52:34 GMT -5
High-ranking members of one political party and a presidential candidate's team colluded with Big Tech to suppress information while censoring other information. What "more" were you hoping for? If it seems dull, that's because we already knew all of this. The goal is to inform your average ignorant voter. While no media outlet will cover any of this, the hope is that a few people on Twitter see it who otherwise wouldn't. I'm not a fan at all of Musk releasing this info via Matt Taibbi, who has 1 million followers. Why not put it directly out on his own account, which has 120 million?
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Post by nephillymike on Dec 3, 2022 15:09:48 GMT -5
Good point about the followers. Why not the 120 mill outlet. Didn’t think about that. Why not? He has to mention on Twitter with a link, no? ( I don’t have Twitter)
When they said that Trumps team was doing the same thing, that was not as bad as if they had no access to request edits. Definitely more in the Dems favor as they had more aligned with them.
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Post by robbieratchet on Dec 3, 2022 18:10:50 GMT -5
Good point about the followers. Why not the 120 mill outlet. Didn’t think about that. Why not? He has to mention on Twitter with a link, no? ( I don’t have Twitter) When they said that Trumps team was doing the same thing, that was not as bad as if they had no access to request edits. Definitely more in the Dems favor as they had more aligned with them. Well he re-tweeted it on his page, but I'm still wondering why he decided to pick out on freelance journalist to dump it through. Weird. Trump's team couldn't get anyone in Silicon Valley to correct a spelling error, much less censor his opponents. Look up all the companies based in Silicon Valley, and know that every single one of them is in bed with the government against you. You likely do business with a dozen or more of them every week.
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Post by One on Dec 4, 2022 11:12:23 GMT -5
We should all realize this isn't going anywhere. More damaging information will be revealed and the media will either ignore it or spin it. The union of our corrupt and partisan public education system and the mainstream media is almost unstoppable.
Anyone who chooses to objectively research current events instinctively knows that the 2020 election was manhandled, just as the 2022 midterms were. Bill Barr said there is no evidence of mass fraud, and he may be right, but selective cheating was the icing for the mass hypnosis that directed voting.
Was it illegal for the PA Supreme Court to expand mail-in voting prior to the 2020 election? Was it illegal for Maricopa tabulation machines to malfunction in 2022? There's a long list of "irregularities" which occurred in both elections (and probably many others) in key areas affecting key candidates that any reasonably attentive person would think should be investigated, but they weren't.
Unless we're able to fix our public and collegiate education systems and find some way to either hold media outlets accountable or convince a majority of Americans to stop listening to them (or research everything they say), we'll either be living in tyranny or find ourselves in a civil war. With opposition leaders like McConnel and McCarthy we're sure to get a show with no results.
The game is fixed. That may not technically be "fraud" but it sure does ensure a given outcome.
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Post by nephillymike on Dec 4, 2022 15:15:58 GMT -5
Thus the new news station.
I’m hopeful One, that this gets more traction. I think it will.
We need to finish investigating Trump.
Have the House do a full investigation of Biden.
Open up an investigation of Hillary and see it thru.
Prosecute all three .
Let it be known that there are standards to run for President.
THAT would be good progress in cleaning up the swamp.
Then start picking off those in Congress. Lord knows there’s a lot of sludge there.
Also, let’s see what these three were invested in. If a staff accountant in public accounting can’t invest in certain companies to maintain independence, let’s see if the POTUS and those running were successful in doing the same.
Fuckem all.
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Post by nephillymike on Dec 4, 2022 20:18:23 GMT -5
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Post by One on Dec 5, 2022 14:39:36 GMT -5
Thus the new news station. I’m hopeful One, that this gets more traction. I think it will. We need to finish investigating Trump. Have the House do a full investigation of Biden. Open up an investigation of Hillary and see it thru. Prosecute all three . Let it be known that there are standards to run for President. THAT would be good progress in cleaning up the swamp. Then start picking off those in Congress. Lord knows there’s a lot of sludge there. Also, let’s see what these three were invested in. If a staff accountant in public accounting can’t invest in certain companies to maintain independence, let’s see if the POTUS and those running were successful in doing the same. Fuckem all. How about the FBI and the DOJ? The ignorant masses who fail to recognize the tyranny that's overtaking us need to get bitch slapped into consciousness. I'm not sure that's doable.
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Post by nephillymike on Dec 5, 2022 20:21:57 GMT -5
Did I read it correctly in that so far the FBI or DOJ are not implicated in Twittergate?
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