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Post by One on Nov 9, 2022 9:31:47 GMT -5
The division in our country is cemented in partisanship rather than reason.
A man who wants to empty our prisons and has difficulty both comprehending speech and speaking is elected to the Senate. Authoritarian tyrants are re-elected to lead their states. Voting machines, mostly disallowed in most of the free world, malfunction at an alarming rate. Vote tabulation in key locations, the same locations that experienced serious issues two years ago, will take days or weeks to be completed.
And half the country cheers.
While we watch as the the Department of "Justice" and FBI intimidate previous leaders and common citizens who embrace the wrong opinions, the "president" declares his opposition to be dangerous - at the same time he threatens to destroy our energy infrastructure at the onset of winter. We see the wealthy elite thriving as inflation and recession stress the existence of working people and the real potential for a near total breakdown of our supply chain.
And half the country applauds.
Literally millions of people are crossing our borders, are stealthily distributed throughout the country and are provided with benefits that hard-working citizens need pay for. Laws are either ignored or unequally applied depending on your political affiliation. Media censors speech, buries fact, and applauds mendacity. Just as we finally eliminate our needless wars we find ourselves dangerously close to entering a potential third world war.
And half the country approves.
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 9, 2022 11:34:20 GMT -5
We've had this discussion before. An election has to be close in order to be stolen. You'll never convince me Kari Lake legitimately lost (still being counted), but I have no problem believing a combination of ignorant chuds and Marxist drones put a stroke victim in the Senate, or somehow re-elected Gretchen Whitmer and the abominable Kathy Hochul. Apparently people like getting raped and assaulted while taking the subway. Of course there's cheating going on, but many of these races shouldn't have even been close. On the bright side, the GOP wouldn't have done jack shit with a large majority either, so maybe it's best that the Dems spend another 2 years running the country into the ground without token opposition. Certainly the results are partially on McConnell and McCarthy. Trump likely cost himself the nomination as well, as he flails around while Ron DeSantis makes Florida look as red as Idaho. New leadership is needed all around. The bottom line is: maybe we aren't suffering enough yet. People get what they vote for, and they deserve every bit of it. I just hope Florida decides to secede and stop letting people in here. Moving here was the best decision I ever made.
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 9, 2022 11:52:26 GMT -5
Oh, and before I forget, I'd like to give my bi-annual middle finger to the Libertarian Party. If you're pro-liberty, run as a Republican and improve our crappy party. Don't siphon votes from them and put a Communist in charge.
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Post by One on Nov 9, 2022 18:46:36 GMT -5
Half the country is tribal and incapable of independent thought and they're responsible for the pain all of us are feeling. Their capacity for voluntary ignorance allows the Democrats to accomplish the cheating they do in plain sight. The majority of Republicans offer no resistance beyond for-show hysteria. We're living in the decline of a political system that's responsible for elevating the standard of living of 75% of the world's population and it not only angers me, it breaks my heart.
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 11, 2022 20:26:53 GMT -5
If you had told me two years ago that we would rebound enough to win at least the House and possibly the Senate, and have a rising star coming up to the big leagues, I would have been happy. I didn’t think we’d sniff a victory for a few more cycles.
The hurt that Trump has caused this party, is being felt, big time.
It wasn’t enough that we won the overturn of the biggest over reach by the Supreme Court ever, NO, why don’t we pop off about an equally unconstitutional National Ban on abortion, Do it before the election, just to get the other side that much more riled up and give them more reason to vote the other side.
Take the win on Dobbs, and STFU.
If you want a national law, pass an amendment. If you don’t have enough states, pass the power to the states and their people to decide what they want.
It’s called the constitution. I’m adopted and pro life, but you abide by the constitution.
Character matters. You haven’t seen anything yet.
It’s all about him. This megalomaniac asshole will run as an independent and fuck us again, and muck up any momentum we should get from electing RD.
He’s already started his shit.
There’s only one guy that can stop him: Mike Pence.
Pull up a chair and take an oath and bury that mother fucker where he belongs. Tell everyone exactly how it felt to have your life threatened while your boss sat by and watched giggling like a school girl for three hours. Funnel the rage you must have for that man and bury him.
Then we can move on and RD can get those in the middle back where they belong voting R and kick the race baiting marxists to the curb where they belong.
Pence needs to do it for the country and for the party.
Sooner than later.
I have a group of ten close friends who we group chat about politics and other stupid shit. We’re all Republicans. Two years ago, I was the only non Trumper. These guys are hard core Trump. He’s lost eight of the nine these last few weeks. Only one remaining. If he’s lost them ,he’s lost the country.
Fuckem.
Move on.
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Post by One on Nov 11, 2022 21:23:19 GMT -5
You already know I don't have near the level of vitriol for Trump that you do, Mike, but I agree he has to step aside for the good of the country. Taking a shot at DeSantis was boorish and dumb. I've heard several people say they think abortion was not the reason Republicans didn't have a red wave, J6 was, especially for suburban independents. The man was very successful in elevating the country and the lives of all Americans, but he was equally responsible for the election of the worst president we've ever had, whether we believe it was a fixed election or not.
I don't care if he continues to hold his MAGA rallies because I think a lot of what he says needs saying, but not by POTUS. Let him take fire while a sane, diplomatic and articulate leader resurrects America and leads the world against globalism.
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 11, 2022 22:58:40 GMT -5
Good calm response Ward, as always.
You can tell my patience is gone.
I heard a few things.
I heard abortion was #2 in most important issue in exit polls. They expected it to be 4th or 5th.
A teammate passed this demo stat along:
Married men favored Repub by 20 points Married women favored Repub by 14 points Single men favored Repub by 7 points Single women favored Dems by 37 points.
The largest demo of newly registered voters was single women.
Even with that, I believe if they would have played it cool and didn’t talk national abortion law, there would be a5 least one state that goes R that didn’t.
Sad thing is Z, this Trump shit show hasn’t even begun. We’ll see his character come out crystal clear.
BTW, I love most of his policies.
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 12, 2022 13:03:25 GMT -5
Honestly, is this Chelsea Clinton pretending to be a guy from NE Philly? The way you talk about the guy could land you a show on MSNBC. Imagine if our side ever went after our actual opponents with such vigor?
First, I don't remember polls ever being so completely wrong - in some states. In Florida you have to show ID to vote, and even when requesting a mail-in ballot, you have to provide a license number, last 4 of your SS, or Florida ID number. DeSantis won by 20%. In Arizona, it's almost a running gag that Maricopa County is going to have issues. The head of Pima County elections is a Communist activist. As a result, Kari Lake will likely have her election stolen. It's about to happen with the Nevada Senate race too. They used covid for a complete upheaval of our electoral process in a way that obviously benefits them, and is almost impossible to prove without a complete audit, which they will never allow because they've won elections in such states and now control said elections. And that was all done on Trump's watch.....so yeah, that's my major beef with him and he deserves every bit of it. How many ballots are dumped at the last minute that weren't from the actual people they were mailed to? You tell me. But I have a hard time believing that someone who was up 2 points in the polls, and was leading with 95% of the vote counted, is now losing the mail-in tallies 2 to 1, like in Nevada.
Trump's biggest screw-up in this cycle was Dr. Oz. I'm pretty sure we can all agree on that. But most of his other high-profile candidate endorsements were excellent. Even if Blake Masters and Kari Lake weren't elected (cheating or no, it has to be close to be stolen), people like them are the future. Maybe we just truly aren't suffering enough to vote for republicans who are actually fully intent on challenging The System. As for single women, I see that stat floating around in an attempt to make the election about abortion, but that's ridiculous. Bitter feminists and trollops who can't land a husband are the Democratic Party's largest voting bloc outside of blacks. By policy they essentially promise the govt. to be your husband.
I welcome a ferocious primary. I want a knockdown, drag-out fight between pissed off patriots trying to earn my vote by out-promising each other on all the outrageous things they're going to do to the criminals running our country into the ground. DeSantis can take his sweet time. Trump will doom himself if he doesn't play the next 2 months right. And there will be others. Let it happen.
And for the last time, nobody who doesn't already hate Trump gives a flying fuck about Mike Pence or January 6th. I'm glad they were scared. They aren't scared enough.
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Post by One on Nov 12, 2022 20:03:05 GMT -5
I think the single women are the young, college educated nit wits who get on their knees and apologize for their white privilege. Our education system is a breeding ground for a different kind of red wave and we can only pray that as the hypnotized stray farther from their indoctrinators, mature, and begin to experience the responsibilities and pains of real life, that they will understand what happened to them and the part they played in tearing apart a republic that provided the opportunity for their willful stupidity.
Although Trump's policies benefited not only all Americans but the entire planet, he made many mistakes. He surrounded himself with disloyal advisors and trusted them. Even if his willingness to attack his enemies was welcomed and necessary, he did it in a way that weakened him and his many accomplishments. He had the will to fight, but not the wisdom to win. I'd vote for him without hesitation if he were the choice to run against any corrupted progressive or demented loser, but not if the choice were between Trump and another who shared his vision but not his penchant for acrimony, someone who had the ability, tact, and verve to achieve similar accomplishments without alienating soft-hearted suburban independents. Most Americans hate the direction the country is headed but have bought the endless lies perpetrated by the media and hate Trump more. America and the world may need Trump's voice, just not from the White House.
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 12, 2022 21:34:14 GMT -5
NV just called for the Dems.
Down 50-49 without GA.
Lake down by 1.4%
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 12, 2022 21:43:13 GMT -5
So Robbie, Trump still your guy?
He don’t give a fuck about you, or the future of the party.
It’s all about him.
Stay tuned.
You’ll see a shit show you want all right, unless they finally nail his ass on one of the hundreds of charges.
The funny thing is, we haven’t even seen his tax returns yet. He’s protecting them as if his life depends on it. Maybe his political life does.
Mehmet wasn’t the only Oz exposed. There’s another to come.
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 13, 2022 0:20:30 GMT -5
So Robbie, Trump still your guy? He don’t give a fuck about you, or the future of the party. It’s all about him. Stay tuned. You’ll see a shit show you want all right, unless they finally nail his ass on one of the hundreds of charges. The funny thing is, we haven’t even seen his tax returns yet. He’s protecting them as if his life depends on it. Maybe his political life does. Mehmet wasn’t the only Oz exposed. There’s another to come. He's never been "my guy." I only pointed out that you have an irrational hatred of the man that would land you a job at CNN or MSNBC. The mail-in ballots just cost us another Senate seat. What are Republicans going to do about it? Nothing, as always. Are you going to demand to see an audit of voters in Arizona and Nevada? Or are you still harping about a private citizen's tax returns? And why? Why do you claim to be a conservative, yet save all your energy to trash the one person who has actually won a victory in the last 20 years? Has he personally hurt you? Come out with it already.
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 13, 2022 7:33:24 GMT -5
I don’t want to repeat a story, have you not heard where my distrust/distaste of him comes from?
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 13, 2022 7:41:37 GMT -5
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 13, 2022 11:21:28 GMT -5
I don’t want to repeat a story, have you not heard where my distrust/distaste of him comes from? If it's that lame anecdote about two guys at a poker table claiming they got screwed out of money by him (while spending money at one of his casinos) then no, you don't have to repeat it. And claiming that this is the reason for your frothy-mouthed hatred of him, of which you've written a small novel about on this website? I call bullshit. Either you're a prime example of how someone can be completely turned batshit crazy by media propaganda, or there's more to it than that. As of now, until mail-in voting is eliminated or completely reformed in several states, nobody on our side is taking the WH anyway.
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 13, 2022 12:42:20 GMT -5
That’s the jist of it. Only to add that I followed up and checked with other business owners that did significant business in AC and they said the same thing.
FWIW, they also said he didn’t have much money.
“ I’ll give you 10%, because let’s face it, my lawyers are better than your lawyers.” Nice.
BTW, the people I checked with were hardcore Republicans if that matters.
My enthusiasm for a businessman possibly getting to the White House died then.
But he had some good policies.
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 13, 2022 14:12:48 GMT -5
That’s the jist of it. Only to add that I followed up and checked with other business owners that did significant business in AC and they said the same thing. FWIW, they also said he didn’t have much money. “ I’ll give you 10%, because let’s face it, my lawyers are better than your lawyers.” Nice. BTW, the people I checked with were hardcore Republicans if that matters. My enthusiasm for a businessman possibly getting to the White House died then. But he had some good policies. Let's say their story is 100% true. Ok, great - he's an asshole. He's made an entire celebrity career out of being one. Was this a secret before 2016? And apparently he made a habit out of short-changing contractors. I don't know, then maybe get the money up front? It doesn't matter how good a lawyer is, if you have a rock-solid contract, you can win in court - or have an arbitration clause in your contract. And I still think it's funny they told this story while giving him more money at his casino. He was the first person in our lifetimes to ever truly challenge The System. He's paved the way for DeSantis, Vance, and the Masters/Lake types, even if they aren't being elected yet. He's going to stick around for a while, and you'd be better served channeling your anger at the people who made his presidency possible, like the child-molesting vegetable currently in charge.
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 13, 2022 16:31:31 GMT -5
Rock solid contracts mean nothing, especially when the bankruptcy hounds were howling. What did he have six of them?
You need a good lawyer and enough funds to outlast his lawyers. No small medium sized contractors can do that. He’s a professional at it.
I liked he challenged the system.
I smiled when he won in 2016 just to stick it to the system and see the Dems freak out.
Even my biggest nightmares of his character flaws would not have us where we are now.
Maybe he’ll surprise us and be gracious and help build the Party post Trump. I doubt it because all he has after the limelight is losing lawsuits, financial ruin and public embarrassment. He needs the limelight, he needs the attention because it’s all about him.
Maybe he’ll surprise me.
When I walked into Trumps casino that day, I was very much hoping that Trump would run for President. I was looking forward to a business man running and winning. I didn’t know much about his issues. All the info I learned was after going there. Funny thing is, I started the conversation by saying to the dealer, “ So it looks like your old boss is going to run for President.” The guy didn’t hide his displeasure and the other guys chimed in from there.
Strange but true..
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 13, 2022 20:10:22 GMT -5
Rock solid contracts mean nothing, especially when the bankruptcy hounds were howling. What did he have six of them? You need a good lawyer and enough funds to outlast his lawyers. No small medium sized contractors can do that. He’s a professional at it. If it was that easy to stiff contractors, the entire construction industry would be an anarchy. You can get a mechanics lien on a property, which would likely be extra bad for the defendant during a Chapter 11 reorganization. They have to show up in court some time, and a judge would rule in favor of or against it. Even if it came down to money, there's no Erin Brockovich wannabe out there who would work on contingency, on a rock solid case against the Big Bad Trump? And they claimed that Trump himself called them into his office?! I've been in the corporate world, and if Trump knew they existed I would be surprised. I don't doubt they told you all of this - I'm just saying it sounds like horseshit. And after 6 years of hearing absolutely absurd things related to him, I go "meh." The fact that they were telling you this while spending money at his casino is the icing on the cake (though in fairness, they could have been so monumentally stupid that they had a verbal contract or something).
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 13, 2022 21:51:43 GMT -5
I know it sounds wacky.
Zero, now One, can attest to me telling him this story before the shit hit the fan with Trump.
I probably wouldn’t believe it but it’s the truth.
You could probably research his reputation in AC and find similar stories, dated back to the early days.
It doesn’t matter. There seems to be nothing he could do to change your mind.
A graceful exit helping the Party would help change mine.
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Post by One on Nov 14, 2022 9:12:49 GMT -5
The dichotomy with Trump is pretty clear. As POTUS he had a way of getting positive accomplishments despite the relentless onslaught of antagonism from the media and the Democrats, most of which was manufactured, and almost never receiving any recognition for the good he did for the people and the world. The flip side is that he deserved a good amount of the attacks because of his juvenile affair with Twitter and his distasteful public persona.
The fact that he acts like an asshole and is despised by those he took to the cleaners as a businessman should be irrelevant. A president should be judged on what he does for his constituents. Trump never will be because the media is controlled by the opposition.
Most politicians are assholes, and if they're successful their path to the top is paved with people they stepped on and destroyed. In the 2016 election Trump was the second worst candidate we had to choose from and was/is an angel compared to his opponents - both Hillary and Biden. Those who control the election process miscalculated America's dislike for progressivism and were caught off-guard with his victory. They learned their lesson and made the changes that would ensure it wouldn't happen again.
If the people are ever to be represented, we need to unchange those changes - aggressively!
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 14, 2022 10:49:37 GMT -5
You could probably research his reputation in AC and find similar stories, dated back to the early days. It doesn’t matter. There seems to be nothing he could do to change your mind. A graceful exit helping the Party would help change mine. Don't project onto me. Indisputable truths change my mind, without fail. You're the one who has written a small novel of hatred for the guy. I'm simply pointing out that when he runs for office as an outsider, and then suddenly all these eerie stories come out (and all from people on the same side of the political aisle), it doesn't move me. Nor does a third-party anecdote coming from someone you met once at a poker table. It sounds wacky because it is. If he campaigned on behalf of DeSantis they would be unstoppable. He won't. He might even avoid campaigning for Herschel Walker since DeSantis and Kemp are. That's what I don't like about him. But none of this matters at all as long as a few counties around the country can keep screwing with our elections.
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 14, 2022 10:53:05 GMT -5
Those who control the election process miscalculated America's dislike for progressivism and were caught off-guard with his victory. They learned their lesson and made the changes that would ensure it wouldn't happen again. If the people are ever to be represented, we need to unchange those changes - aggressively! Amen. They truly were caught snoozing in 2016. It still makes me smile remembering the media meltdown that night. They weren't going to make that mistake again. Hell, they crashed the economy over the flu and created a summer of riots, and completely upended the electoral process. I think I got 4 ballots in the mail that year. And he let it happen. And now we're paying for it.
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 14, 2022 23:00:29 GMT -5
So who’s in for Trump to go all in for the Republican nomination?
Not me.
Robbie yes.
One no?
Did I tally correctly?
Anyone else?
Dems out there? He’ll yes.
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Post by robbieratchet on Nov 15, 2022 0:23:34 GMT -5
So who’s in for Trump to go all in for the Republican nomination? Not me. Robbie yes. One no? Did I tally correctly? Anyone else? Dems out there? He’ll yes. Anyone and everyone, get out there and compete for my vote, which won't matter in NV, AZ, PA, WI, MI, or GA. The more the merrier. And as always, someone will come out of the woodwork and grab a fair share.
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Post by One on Nov 15, 2022 21:34:26 GMT -5
Those who control the election process miscalculated America's dislike for progressivism and were caught off-guard with his victory. They learned their lesson and made the changes that would ensure it wouldn't happen again. If the people are ever to be represented, we need to unchange those changes - aggressively! Amen. They truly were caught snoozing in 2016. It still makes me smile remembering the media meltdown that night. They weren't going to make that mistake again. Hell, they crashed the economy over the flu and created a summer of riots, and completely upended the electoral process. I think I got 4 ballots in the mail that year. And he let it happen. And now we're paying for it. We let it happen and we're letting it happen again. I don't suggest we do what the progressives do - loot, burn and kill - but someone needs to organize rallies in Washington, every state capitol, and every major city in the country and keep doing it. We need to protest the absence of legitimate investigations of election manipulation and inundate the airwaves with evidence that needs to be looked at. We need to expose the dishonest media to honest citizens who trust and believe them. And it's not only the election but the shenanigans that led up to the election. We're probably the only country in Western civilization that allows mail-in voting to the extent that we do. With all of the bullshit we've all seen from voting machines we need to revert back to manual ballots and tabulation and force our states to make it law to have ballots counted within a pre-determined time frame. At the risk of being labeled a racist for this analogy, honest people have to refuse to sit in the back of the bus and use separate drinking fountains. Honest people, regardless of party affiliation, are being openly abused and delegitimized by the Democrat-communists who are taking over our country. I don't trust McCarthy and whoever is the Majority Leader in the Senate to do what needs to be done. The rally on January 6 was a start, but nobody realized it was a set-up until it was too late. Forewarned and prepared for that, we need to repeat those rallies until everyone realizes the majority of Americans are demanding changes. A Constitutional Convention is needed to set term limits and disassemble the administrative state. This is the revolution we need.
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Post by One on Nov 15, 2022 21:42:33 GMT -5
So who’s in for Trump to go all in for the Republican nomination? Not me. Robbie yes. One no? Did I tally correctly? Anyone else? Dems out there? He’ll yes. The man is a lightning rod for accusations of conspiracy theories, the Democrat owned media will push that narrative, and America will die. I agree with most of what he says and love most of what he did, but he needs to get out of the spotlight and let a more polished version of himself lead. We need the soft speaker with big stick who will prove the conspiracies are perpetrated by the accusers, not the accused.
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 21, 2022 5:45:06 GMT -5
I saw this interesting stat in an article last week:
61% of Republicans do not believe Trump lost in 2020. 72% of Democrats do not believe that Hillary lost in 2016.
Point was, the original election deniers, and most rampant, are the Dems. But, you don’t hear about that much.
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Post by nephillymike on Nov 21, 2022 5:49:05 GMT -5
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Post by One on Nov 21, 2022 20:13:40 GMT -5
I saw this interesting stat in an article last week: 61% of Republicans do not believe Trump lost in 2020. 72% of Democrats do not believe that Hillary lost in 2016. Point was, the original election deniers, and most rampant, are the Dems. But, you don’t hear about that much. I read somewhere that the only election since Reagan the Dems lost when they haven't claimed it was fixed was H W Bush. It goes to show how corrupt the media is and how lazy and stupid most voters are. Our kids are indoctrinated in this kind of crap from grade school through college, by the left, but somehow that's not relevant. The FBI and the media conspire to keep information from the voters and that's not fixing an election.
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