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Post by bigred on Sept 30, 2019 20:23:42 GMT -5
Another BS pass interference call tonight, challenged by Mike Tomlin. The announcers were bullish on it being overturned, but it wasn't.
I think it's obvious that whether via official-unofficial policy or ref unity, PI or non-PI calls aren't going be overturned. I don't think a single one has been yet.
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Post by nephillymike on Sept 30, 2019 21:37:42 GMT -5
They are exposing themselves.
The average fan watches the replay and says that's PI, only to say it wasn't. Makes them look worse.
Should just use the same judgement as they do on other reviews.
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Post by bigred on Sept 30, 2019 22:38:34 GMT -5
My best guess is the refs are giving the middle finger to the league. Some coaches have theorized that Goodell has told the refs to only overturn in an exceedingly blatant case.
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Post by nephillymike on Oct 1, 2019 4:53:11 GMT -5
My best guess is the refs are giving the middle finger to the league. Some coaches have theorized that Goodell has told the refs to only overturn in an exceedingly blatant case. I think I may have heard them say that was the case. However, both the PI on Maddox and the PI on the DB covering Jefferey were legit PI. I'd give them both an 8 out of 10. To not change the call on those two, leaves the viewers thinking that the fix is in. At least in this case, they were on either team. By having the opportunity to reverse a call and not do that in an obvious case, makes them look worse than if they never had a chance to review it, |
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Post by gadgetrick on Oct 1, 2019 5:03:50 GMT -5
It's not the officials as they have no say in replays--all handled in NY. But, if you're going to have the ability to review these calls, they really should overturn the ones that are obvious (like the two in the GB game). So far, this has been a joke.
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Post by bigred on Oct 1, 2019 17:34:07 GMT -5
It's not the officials as they have no say in replays--all handled in NY. But, if you're going to have the ability to review these calls, they really should overturn the ones that are obvious (like the two in the GB game). So far, this has been a joke. Of course it's the officials, that's why they go into the instant replay booth to watch all the angles. Each game has an assistant upstairs monitoring, and NY is always on call for assistance, but it seems mostly for entertainment when announcers ask the "NY guy." How can it not be the officials reviewing it? I'm not being a dick, I've just never heard anyone say it was all handled in NY. I just read the wikipedia entry of the rules, correct me if you've seen something else. |
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Post by gadgetrick on Oct 1, 2019 18:35:33 GMT -5
It's not the officials as they have no say in replays--all handled in NY. But, if you're going to have the ability to review these calls, they really should overturn the ones that are obvious (like the two in the GB game). So far, this has been a joke. Of course it's the officials, that's why they go into the instant replay booth to watch all the angles. Each game has an assistant upstairs monitoring, and NY is always on call for assistance, but it seems mostly for entertainment when announcers ask the "NY guy." How can it not be the officials reviewing it? I'm not being a dick, I've just never heard anyone say it was all handled in NY. I just read the wikipedia entry of the rules, correct me if you've seen something else. It's NY who makes the call: "After the referee reviews the play with the AMGC, a senior designated member of the officiating department will make the final desciion on the review." --> Clicky<-- |
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Post by bigred on Oct 1, 2019 21:09:28 GMT -5
Ok I stand corrected.
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Post by gadgetrick on Oct 2, 2019 5:12:05 GMT -5
That's why I'm always like, "Why do we have to watch the idiot, er ah, ref look stand on the field watching a Surface Tablet like they're actually reviewing the call..." I mean, I get it, advertising but couldn't they just put a logo on the screen or run a commercial for it while they review the play? |
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Post by nephillymike on Oct 2, 2019 18:31:41 GMT -5
I say give the coaches max three challenges to use, only one can be on a penalty. They get the first two right, they get the third.
And call the penalty replays legitimately, not the way they are doing it now.
Won't prolong the game and it will cost the team if they challenge Willy nilly shit, and it won't be all penalty reviews. But give them the right to challenge ANY penalty.
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Post by bigred on Oct 2, 2019 21:37:46 GMT -5
I say give the coaches max three challenges to use, only one can be on a penalty. They get the first two right, they get the third. And call the penalty replays legitimately, not the way they are doing it now. Won't prolong the game and it will cost the team if they challenge Willy nilly shit, and it won't be all penalty reviews. But give them the right to challenge ANY penalty. Yeah we all agree they should replay them fairly. The point is, at this point it should be obvious they aren't turning them over. The only question is how much the league is guiding this. And remember, the rule change is just for a year. This reeks of the league appeasing bitches in New Orleans, while 'proving' at the end of the year that the rule is unnecessary by looking at the stats of overturned PI/non-PI. You would think Goodell would just tell NO to suck it up, it's part of the game. The NFL is more dishonest than the CIA. |
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Post by gadgetrick on Oct 3, 2019 5:24:40 GMT -5
I have no problem with challenges as long as they're going to actually overturn obvious situations. It's apparent they do not want to overturn PI calls. I'm guessing it's a statement by the league so, after the season they can say, "See! We tried and only 5% of the calls were overturned. Our refs know how to call PI..."
It's bullshit as we know but so are these challenges. The way they're NOT overturning these I wonder if they would have overturned the play against NO last year in the playoffs....
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