Bradham pick to win it? WOW

Love it but he needs to take a knee in the end zone!

I just don't understand why he didn't use him on those last two offensive plays you guys had. That would have run a minute and a half off the clock instead of stopping it twice with those two incompletions.

I actually found myself in the weird position of yelling at a division rivals coach to run the damn ball.

Groh still has to go. Thankfully, they finally realized, "Oh! We have a good running back...or two...or three..." Run the damn ball!!!

Bradham missed what probably would have been a Pick 6 earlier in the game.

Was Jenkins on the field last night? Was watching in a bar so couldn't hear the announcers (thankfully). 

Schwartz is an idiot. 3rd and long, he always plays the CBs off the receivers 8 yards. Then, ball snapped, they backpedal. Predictably, the receiver cuts under (while the CB is still backpedaling) and boom! First down.

What the hell happened to tackling? This defense looks horrible tackling. Can they tackle anyone cleanly when they DO actually tackle? Guys ALWAYS falling forward for 3-5 yards. WTF!!!??

Wentz needs to get out of this throwing the ball high early in the game. He's also been bad on throws to the outside. Otherwise, he's the friggin' man.

Jeffrey is a friggin' MAN. The guy was obviously, hurt last night but still helped the offense get on track. All the respect to that guy.

The playcalling on the last drive was just stupid. They'd run the ball for 170 yards. 2nd down, was moving the ball (running) and working to run the clock down, what do you do? Well, pass of course! Incomplete of course. Stops the clock. 3rd and long and, well, Wentz missed an easy throw for a first down. Punt the ball and give the defense one last chance to give up the lead.

Defense, again, let's them march down the field and it's looking bleak. Then we get lucky on a bounce thankfully.

Was nice seeing the offense finally wake up but another lost 1st quarter. Say it with me...Groh must goh!!! Groh must goh!!

I think it's obvious the NFL doesn't want to overturn PI calls. That was absolutely PI on us when GB challenged and it was definitely PI on GB when we challenged it. If you're going to have the ability to challenge, you have to overturn obvious calls like that. Otherwise, get rid of that challenge.

I'll take the win. Tough to win in GB any time.

-Our DB's suck, and Rodgers was carving them up all night.  If Adams is on the field all night we probably don't win.  He has to play them back to give them a chance to not get burned.  If he played press coverage and constantly gave up 50 yard plays you'd be bitching about that.

-This is what happens when Goodell and Co. reward whiny little bitches for bitching.  Yes, the non-PI call in NO was atrocious.  No, that doesn't mean we should change the entire game because whiny fans booed.  I'm glad they aren't overturning PI.  Just get rid of the damn rule change and tell Payton to fuck off.  

When the field is compressed, redzone, the secondary performs more than adequately, could say good even. What the Birds desperately need is that standout CB who can match it with oppositions best wideout. Until we have that Schwartz has to pick his poison - either give up easy yards over the top or give up easy yards underneath. At least yards underneath doesnt usually result in 6 points.

I agree 100%.  The style of CB play is idiotic.
They play a lot of good QBs this year who will eat them alive. Make the QB makevthectough throw. Give the DL that extra second.
Another thing is that playing the way they do, always gives the QB an easy outlet throw. They go back to pass knowing that they have that outlet pass on the soft coverage.  Take that away with in your face coverage and get the QB out of their consort zone.

We need Ramsey now. This secondary is so bad that we aren't going anywhere. Injuries likely to make it worse but quite frankly, I can't see how James and Scandrick can't be an improvement over Maddox. Get him now ehilevwe have the extra days to get him up to speed.

You can agree with other fans, but the video and common sense agrees with me.  Again, when pressing a top WR with a far inferior CB, he gave up a 60 yard play.  Playing off prevented any further big plays, apart from the time Maddox slipped.  Rodgers and Brady are arguably the 2 best QBs in history.  Nobody gives a shit about yards as long as you win.  If Belichick managed to pull that game out, do you think Boston fans would be going "ummm but Belichick gave up 500 yards to Nick Foles, fraud!"  No.

JJ didn't win shit with one of the best secondaries ever assembled.  We have absolute trash apart from an elderly Jenkins, and won a damn Super Bowl, and just beat Rodgers in GB.

He inherited one of the worst defenses in football, and we've made marked improvements in his time here.  Again, with absolute shit DB's. He doesn't need your credit or your support, because people who actually know football knows what a good DC he is.  And he's got the ring to prove it, by beating his old former mentor, considered the best coach in history by many.  Now go get rick some more Doritos while you yell at the tv about how much he sucks.

Are you able to read or do we need to draw pictures? I understand what you're saying about giving up big plays. Ok, you have exactly ONE example of a big play when pressing. Also, I get it, you can get burned when pressing, however, more often than not, when they're pressing, a big play doesn't happen, in fact, even a short play doesn't normally happen. However, big plays (defined as giving up a first down or more) happen all of the time with this stupid way of playing CBs off 8 yards and having the backpedal.

Regardless of all of this, the pass defense is absolutely HORRIBLE at this point. What they're doing isn't working. They're 2-2 and could very easily be 0-4 (could be 4-0 as well but not because of the defense). The defense is giving up 26+ points per game right now. What kind of record do you think they'll have if they continue to give up almost 30 points per game?

Bottom line is, what they're doing isn't working. They've tried to protect the CBs for years by playing this stupid scheme playing them off. Nobody is arguing they need better CB play. But you cannot continue to give up 10-15 yard chunks of the field.

They've played much better in the red zone. You think that may be because they can't backpedal as they'd be in the stands?

I live in a universe where winning the Super Bowl against the greatest dynasty in the history of the game with your backup QB is awesome.  Brady and company are going to put up yards and points.  The offense was great, and the defense did their job and made plays when they had to.  The only team to really stuff the Pats' offense in the playoffs in recent memory was the Rams in the Super Bowl.  Do you think Wade Philips goes around bragging about how his D only gave up 400 yards?  Or do you think he'd rather give up the yards and win the damn game?

Go watch the video of Adams's catches, it's right there in youtube.  Right off the bat Maddox pressed and got burned for 58 yards.  Afterwards, he played off and Adams was held to mid-range catches.  The only other big play was when Maddox was playing off but slipped (remember, he sucks).

The evidence is there, you just have to stop hating and look at it.  It's the correct way to play our DB's right now.  I'd like to see a few more blitzes too, and Maddox should've gotten more help. Perhaps with all the Packers' weapons Schwartz was uncomfortable with various matchups, as he should've been.  But it's ridiculous to suggest a 3rd tier CB pressing a top-5 WR being thrown to by a HOF all-time QB is going to lead to anything other than disaster.

And Cheese Puffs are gross, that orange shit gets all over your fingers.  You're wrong about that too.   

Umm, when you have a good/great receiver, you are correct, not a lot of CBs in the NFL will be able to cover them. However, Schwartz also doesn't like to double-team receivers. We saw it last year with Cooper and with other top receivers. So, pressing a receiver like that--with some help--would be a better option. Also, you seem to forget Adams went down late in the game after he'd already caught passed for 180 yards. Even if you take away the 58 yard reception, that's still REALLY bad and wasn't getting the job done. Had he not gotten hurt, there's a VERY good possibility GB would have (at least) tied the game. Also a good possibility they would have come back and won. Again, playing off and backpedalling didn't work.

You seem to be missing the, "and backpedalling," part with what we're saying. You can't play off 8 yards and then back off at the snap of the ball and expect to stop anyone. Go ahead, watch the video of any game the Eagles have played this year. Watch how almost EVERY time there's a 3rd and 10ish they play the CBs off. The QB throws the ball to the receivers who aren't being covered until they get to about 12 yards down the field and, you guessed it! First down and maybe more since these guys can't tackle.

You think the fact the defense can't get off the field won't affect them even more as the season goes on? Especially with the injuries now and they don't have the depth they had to start the season? You can't keep giving up 500-600 yards a game and expect to win many games. You also can't expect to do that and have the defense fresh enough to stop anyone as the season wears on.

There is no argument the CBs they have aren't as good as we'd like but, when you play them back, and HAVE THEM BACKPEDAL, you aren't even giving them a chance to make a play. It's REALLY hard to backpedal, have a guy running at you, they make a move and accelerate to full speed, now your CB has to turn and then accelerate. The WR is already open and you have to try and catch up to make a play on the ball. Just not realistic to ask a CB to do that. Hell, the best CBs in the history of the game would have a difficult time covering people like that.

Chuck the guy off the line, mess up their timing, have help for the better WR you're facing. Funny how teams all over the NFL do this all of the time--hell they do it to us!--and it seems to work for them even though there are only a small handful of GOOD CBs in the NFL right now.

No,

A shitty fan base makes excuses for a slightly above average DC giving up 600 yards and 33 points in one of our 3 SB appearances.

A shitty fan base would PRAISE him for such a lame ass performance.

And no, I didn't and don't make excuses for Andy. Matter of fact, I was at that NE game at the Linc and in the section that started the Fi-Yer An Dee chants that spread to resonate throughout the stadium that day..

I'm Ok with Schwartz as our DC, but have no delusions of him being special.

This "Big Red" sounds familiar.

Been around these parts before ?

Admins, is he a returner with an alias?

BTW, if you didn't come up with the lame argument that he gets credit for the SB win, but instead said he deserves a lot of credit for getting us thru the playoffs TO the SB, you'd be right.

But you didn't.

You coulda been somebody.

As far as the stats lying. Why don't we wait until the end of the year so we have four full years to judge,

Sound like a plan?