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Post by nephillymike on Apr 27, 2019 10:54:51 GMT -5
#38 C. Gardner Johnson (S)
#53 D. Thompson (S)
#54 A. Oruwariye (CB)
#56 J. Love (CB)
#58 H. Butler (WR)
#60 M. Wilson (ILB)
#63 R. Ridley (WR)
#66 K. Harmon (WR)
#70 R. Finley (QB)
#72 A. Hooker (S)
#75 G. Willis (DT)
#77 E. Hall (WR)
#78 M. Jordan (OG)
#90 J. Jackson (DE)
#91 D. Walker (OLB)
#93 C. Omenihu (DE)
#95 A. Nelson (DE)
#98 B. Evans (OT)
#102 J. Hill (RB)
#103 R. Anderson (RB)
#104 V. Joseph (OLB)
#105 T. Coney (ILB)
#107 R. Wrenn (DT)
Out of this bunch, position-wise, there are 16: 3 S, 2 CB, 4 LB, 5 DL, 2 OL that should still interest us and
7 that we can pass on 4 WR, 1 QB, 2 RB
Hopefully a few good ones in our PON fall to us at the bottom of the 4th.
I like Eyrie's idea of trading a 2020 pick. I think I'd maybe go a 2020 5th plus a backup player for a 4th or 5th this year, if we could. I think getting a pick this year vs next year makes a difference. I don't think we will, but I would like to.
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Post by nephillymike on Apr 27, 2019 13:19:11 GMT -5
We bypassed a lot of these guys to reach for S. Miller DE at pick # 138, who was rated #152 on the compilation. Given the board, it was a reach.
Would have really liked:
53. D. Thompson (S)
54. A. Oruwariye (CB)
60. A. Wilson (ILB)
75. G.Willis (DT)
And preferred
90. J.Jackson (DE)
91. D. Walker (OLB)
93. C. Omenihu (DE)
104. V. Joseph (OLB)
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Post by hankey on Apr 27, 2019 14:35:33 GMT -5
Loved the Dillard pick.
Meh on the Sanders pick, I wish they would've gone RB in later rounds if at all.
I'm absolutely stunned that they drafted a WR in the 3rd, especially after picking an RB in the 2nd. Are defensive coaches not allowed to give input here?
I'm ok with another pass rusher, but I'm not a huge fan of picking two guys from Penn State. Or even one for that matter.
Really?! A fucking QB in the 5th? WHAT?!?!?!?!
Whoever is drafted #236 will likely not even make the team.
And this is why I don't get emotionally invested in the draft. Meh. Wake me when it's time for camp.
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Post by gadgetrick on Apr 27, 2019 17:38:00 GMT -5
Loved the Dillard pick. Meh on the Sanders pick, I wish they would've gone RB in later rounds if at all. I'm absolutely stunned that they drafted a WR in the 3rd, especially after picking an RB in the 2nd. Are defensive coaches not allowed to give input here? I'm ok with another pass rusher, but I'm not a huge fan of picking two guys from Penn State. Or even one for that matter. Really?! A fucking QB in the 5th? WHAT?!?!?!?! Whoever is drafted #236 will likely not even make the team. And this is why I don't get emotionally invested in the draft. Meh. Wake me when it's time for camp. Damnit! I agree with you...for once. I thought the same thing about drafting a QB that low. Why not just bring in an UDFA? |
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Post by hankey on Apr 27, 2019 18:54:57 GMT -5
Damnit! I agree with you...for once. What's it like being right for the first time?  Frankly, the QB pick is outrageous. We're going to live or die with Wentz - while I don't love the RB/WR picks, if your goal is to do nothing but give him weapons, fine. If Thorson ever sees the field, that means our season is over. |
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Post by nephillymike on Apr 27, 2019 19:05:25 GMT -5
I agree about the QB.
We need a veteran backup QB. While I think Suds is good, we don't know. Pay for that insurance and make Suds beat out a veteran backup.
I think the Eagles wanted Carsons teammate, Easton Stick, but LAC got him the pick before we took Thorson.
Don't understand it, this year. Next year if more confident in Suds, fine, then draft a kid QB.
Not this year.
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Post by eyrie on Apr 28, 2019 4:29:47 GMT -5
The counter argument is that Sudfield will be a FA next year, so adding a late pick at QB gives us time to evaluate Thorson and decide if he is the next back up. If not, we need to pay Sudfield.
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Post by One on Apr 28, 2019 6:11:41 GMT -5
The counter argument is that Sudfield will be a FA next year, so adding a late pick at QB gives us time to evaluate Thorson and decide if he is the next back up. If not, we need to pay Sudfield. This. They seem to have confidence in Sudfeld so he's good this year - why add a vet now if they believe Suds can do it? It took him a little time to sign his tender so he may be smelling greener pastures and the Eagles aren't sure they'll be able to commit the money to keep him next year. They need to start someone in the pipeline now, they can worry about a FA vet next year if they know that Suds will be leaving. They want this to be a QB-centric team, and Thorson appears to be a guy they think they can coach up to be #2 and potentially yield them a pick in either trade or comp. Is drafting JAW a sign that either money, health or both could be a concern with Jeffrey in the next year or two? And, it sounds like Duce, Howie, Joe and Doug all love Sanders - that may mean he's better than what we think. |
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Post by nephillymike on Apr 28, 2019 6:12:20 GMT -5
Yeah but we could do the same with a veteran back up. Have them battle it out and if Suds wins, pay him as a FA to backup. If he does so well he gets Starter opportunity, you can come back with the Vet backup next year and then draft a project.
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Post by gadgetrick on Apr 28, 2019 7:03:49 GMT -5
Yeah but we could do the same with a veteran back up. Have them battle it out and if Suds wins, pay him as a FA to backup. If he does so well he gets Starter opportunity, you can come back with the Vet backup next year and then draft a project. Well-said. Why use a late-round pick on a QB? I mean, what's the hit percentage on QBs drafted so late? Gotta believe it's not as high a percentage as bringing in a veteran.... |
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Post by One on Apr 28, 2019 7:40:59 GMT -5
Sudfeld was a sixth rounder. This team believes it can develop QBs and wants to always have someone in the pipeline. I personally don't see the problem with keeping a vet and a young backup behind Wentz. Sudfeld is the vet and there will be more vets available next year.
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Post by nephillymike on Apr 28, 2019 9:08:10 GMT -5
Sudfeld is not the vet. What's he have, 3/4 of a meaningless game and one snap in relief last year?
We need a vet with experience. Iron sharpens Iron.
Let a vet come in let Suds show us he is better or a real close younger/cheaper option.
What we have is Suds vs a real low draft pick that needs a lot of work who will be trying to tie his shoelaces the correct way. Suds could suck and he will still beat out this guy.
I don't see this as smart at all. ESPECIALLY, given our starting QB propensity to get injured.
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Post by One on Apr 28, 2019 14:17:36 GMT -5
For some reason I trust Joe and Doug to know if Sudfeld can do the job.
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Post by nephillymike on Apr 28, 2019 17:38:39 GMT -5
But if you listened to Doug a few weeks ago when asked about Nate, he said he's earned the right to COMPETE for the backup job. That was a little surprising to me. There's no competition with Thorson. Inconsistency with what Doug said.
We'll see.
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Post by gadgetrick on Apr 28, 2019 18:11:08 GMT -5
Sudfeld is not the vet. What's he have, 3/4 of a meaningless game and one snap in relief last year? We need a vet with experience. Iron sharpens Iron. Let a vet come in let Suds show us he is better or a real close younger/cheaper option. What we have is Suds vs a real low draft pick that needs a lot of work who will be trying to tie his shoelaces the correct way. Suds could suck and he will still beat out this guy. I don't see this as smart at all. ESPECIALLY, given our starting QB propensity to get injured. I totally agree. |
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Post by One on Apr 28, 2019 19:05:58 GMT -5
But if you listened to Doug a few weeks ago when asked about Nate, he said he's earned the right to COMPETE for the backup job. That was a little surprising to me. There's no competition with Thorson. Inconsistency with what Doug said. We'll see. But don't they say that about virtually every position ... except maybe Wentz? |
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Post by nephillymike on Apr 28, 2019 19:11:58 GMT -5
Yes but the difference is, they have guys who can compete.
Thorson, this year, can't. That's the difference.
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Post by eyrie on Apr 29, 2019 4:54:18 GMT -5
Yes but the difference is, they have guys who can compete. Thorson, this year, can't. That's the difference. The Eagles have seen more of Sudfield than we have, so if they have faith that he can be the back up for 2019 then I'm fine with that. Thorson gets a year before we need to decide if he can compete. So who is available as the veteran QB to challenge Sudfield? The Eagles couldn't find one they liked earlier, which is why Perez was signed. And if things don't work out, then the veteran can still be added later. |
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Post by One on Apr 29, 2019 7:09:04 GMT -5
You can't argue with the Axis. |
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Post by eyrie on Apr 29, 2019 13:49:13 GMT -5
You can't argue with the Axis. We've* been doing that unsuccessfully ever since we first met on Rivals. *Well, you have. I defected at one point before coming back. |
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Post by realityfan on Apr 29, 2019 16:15:48 GMT -5
I have to agree...the qb pick was a waste.....especially since he seems like just a camp arm.
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