md717
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Post by md717 on May 30, 2024 23:47:31 GMT -5
What happened tonight drove a permanent and irrevocable wedge between the two ideological factions of this country. It's going to get ugly from here on out.
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Post by nephillymike on Jun 1, 2024 21:23:37 GMT -5
There’s three ways this can go and none are appealing:
1. Repubs return favor and send to bogus trials in favorable venues and arrest the shit out of corrupt Dem politicians. Others do the dirty work 2. Trump wins and spends the entire term appealing and defending and launching a personal vengeance tour making it all about him to the detriment of the country. 3. Biden wins and we’re all fucked
You guys know I can’t stand Trump. I’ve made that abundantly clear over the years.
However, with this obvious blatant insult our intelligence communist display, he’s got my vote.
Believe me, there’s a lot on the fence who hate him less than me that cemented their votes too.
Years ago, B. Clinton won a lot of seats in mid terms when people revolted over the Lewinsky affair dirty laundry being aired. This will have similar effect only in Presidential votes.
Next the debates on June 27th.
Then the sentencing on July 11, when they will have the balls to award a jail time sentence. Nobody has mentioned that in any article I read. Would that surprise anyone?
Here’s an off the wall prediction that I heard months ago that makes so much more sense now.
The Dems will panic. Biden will step aside for mental sickness., Kamala will accept the Supreme Court justice spot of a newly retired Sotomayor and in from the.bullpen comes M. Obama. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
The only thing other than that to stop the train includes a few bullets and a grassy knoll.
Fuck’em.
Make them put up with the megalomaniacal asshole for four more years.
Only he can truly attempt to clean up the swamp. Four years ago, I thought that talk was mostly all partisan bullshit.
I was wrong.
November cant come soon enough.
Oh, please tune in a few weeks for the trial of the crack head bribery specialist and see how the members of the Politburo go thru the legal process. Putin would be proud..
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Post by robbieratchet on Jun 2, 2024 9:48:13 GMT -5
I don't have the time or patience to go through old threads, but I'm pretty sure I told all of you that he was inevitably going to prison. From the time he walked down that escalator and made his opening speech in 2015, he was marked for death. Well, here we are. He will 100% be sentenced to prison on July 11th, though of course he'll remain free during the appeals process.
As I've also said many times, he brought this on himself. He threatened The System, then went to Washington and tried to make friends with it. Hired Bill Barr as his AG. John Freaking Bolton as National Security Advisor, a guy who has spent the last 40 years trying to start wars around the world. He put his son-in-law, a flaming liberal, in charge of his administration. Broke all of his promises. He didn't lock the bitch up, he didn't build a wall, and when presented with a strain of the flu with a 99.99% survival rate, he allowed his political opponents to crash the economy and lock us down in an election year, while printing $6 trillion. Oh, and of course we had to see race riots while sitting in our homes. Then he lost an obviously stolen election, and decided to half-ass it. Instead of standing firm and calling on his supporters to march on Washington, he made a BS speech, implied that they should do something about it, and a bunch of his supporters who peacefully walked through the Capitol are now sitting in jail.
Well, good. If he has any brains at all, he knows that if he loses this election, he's going to spend the rest of his life in jail. They'll in all likelihood bankrupt his entire family. Perhaps his sons, daughter, and son-in-law go to jail too. They'll probably spare Barron and Melania, but who knows? And the amount of blatant cheating we're going to see in this election will make 2020 look like a church bingo game. And even if, somehow, he overcomes all of that massive cheating and wins, then he has 4 years to clean house. It won't be easy. Because, rest assured, if he doesn't "drain the swamp," once his term is over he's still going to jail for the rest of his life.
It's crunch time Donny! Do or die. Literally.
Side note: unless I'm missing something, they put the first debate in late June to give them a pretext to replace Biden at the convention. Of course they don't want to run him again. But then, wouldn't Biden have to voluntarily leave? As far as that decrepit old corpse is concerned, he's killing it. And he's still making money for his family by laundering it through Ukraine. He certainly won't go voluntarily, even if he only knows where he is for 30 minutes each day.
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Post by nephillymike on Jun 2, 2024 16:15:51 GMT -5
Good rant Robbie.
As far as Biden going peacefully, all the Dems have to do is threaten to remove the red tape protections for his family’s money for hire scams. He won’t be able to step aside fast enough. If they have to fight those charges on their own, He and his crack head son are going to jail. Trust me, he’ll go away peacefully and take the $13+million his and wifey’s bogus s corps made in the Hunter payoff years and will fade away.
You are right about the reason for the timing. But he needs to be chosen by tue party and for the reasons above, he’ll step aside.
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Post by robbieratchet on Jun 3, 2024 17:39:31 GMT -5
Good rant Robbie. As far as Biden going peacefully, all the Dems have to do is threaten to remove the red tape protections for his family’s money for hire scams. He won’t be able to step aside fast enough. If they have to fight those charges on their own, He and his crack head son are going to jail. Trust me, he’ll go away peacefully and take the $13+million his and wifey’s bogus s corps made in the Hunter payoff years and will fade away. You are right about the reason for the timing. But he needs to be chosen by tue party and for the reasons above, he’ll step aside. The party has to nominate him of course, but he can still run as an Independent. Sure they can bribe/threaten/off him, and that might work. I just don't think people understand how absolutely corrupt to the core this guy is. He thinks he's doing a hell of a job, and deserves another 4 years. And he's making money for his family. It'll be interesting to see what they do. One positive is that, once again, the Libertarian Party (the herpes of the political world as I call them) has a chance to make serious inroads with the general voting public. And thankfully, once again, they have instead decided to advertise to the world what a complete and utter joke they are by nominating the biggest degenerate scumbag they can find. Google Chase Oliver and get back to me. He will take literally ZERO votes from Trump, only from Biden.
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Post by md717 on Jun 3, 2024 23:31:48 GMT -5
Mike - are you saying that until Thursday afternoon you were unsure of how (or if) you would vote in November? And this cinched it for you?
Robbie - I think you're on record as saying you won't vote for the guy - has that changed, and if so is it because of this sham criminal proceding?
I'm not a big Trump fan either - although I think compared to the two of you I'm the captain of the booster club. I literally went into mourning when Trump clinched the nomination in Indiana in the runup to the 2016 election. (I watched BBC cute animal videos for weeks.) I took a clothes pin to the voting booth in November '16, not trusting my fingers to pinch my nose shut hard enough. I voted for Trump for one reason and one reason only - his promise to nominate conservative justices to the court. I didn't believe his promise, but I thought it was worth the risk knowing for SURE who Hilary Clinton would nominate. Contrary to Robbie's assertions, that was one promise he DID keep, and we as a country are better for it, leaving aside everything else he did or didn't do while in office.
I donated to Trump's campaign on Thursday evening last week - the first time I've ever given money to a national political campaign. I didn't take out a second mortgage on my house or anything, but it was literally a first for me.
Joe Biden will be the Democrat nominee. They are stuck with him, and there's no mechanism (short of a serious illness or death) that will derail his candidacy. They even have to do some kind of virtual nomination ahead of the actual convention to make sure he gets on the ballot in Ohio.
Joe Biden is one of the nastiest, meanest, most loathsome men to ever hold office in this country. The image of "friendly working-class Uncle Joe" is one of the wildest lies ever perpetrated on the American electorate. I only hope that there is a special place in Hell reserved for him, and that he gets to take up residence there sooner rather than later.
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Post by md717 on Jun 4, 2024 0:35:36 GMT -5
There’s three ways this can go and none are appealing: 1. Repubs return favor and send to bogus trials in favorable venues and arrest the shit out of corrupt Dem politicians. Others do the dirty work 2. Trump wins and spends the entire term appealing and defending and launching a personal vengeance tour making it all about him to the detriment of the country. 3. Biden wins and we’re all fucked I think there are other possibilities. First of all, your option #1 - Republicans should absolutely prosecute real crimes perpetrated by Democrats, starting with those who maliciously prosecuted Trump on political pretexts. This behavior must have consequences, else it will continue. They should *NOT* "send bogus trials in favorable venues" like the Democrats have done. 2 - I hope he's grown past that. I'll note that "Hope is delayed disappointment" - so we'll see. 3 - God forbid. I'll seriously consider leaving the country. New Zealand? Belize? When DJT took office in 2017, many Republicans in Congress were skeptical of him, and were even believing the Democrat lies about "Russia Russia Russia." So they hung back and weren't enthusiastic about his agenda and didn't advance the ball even given their control of both houses. I'm hopeful that this time will be different, now that everyone knows the dirty tricks the Dems are willing to play. I wish we had a different standard bearer. But I guess you go to war with the candidate you've got.
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Post by robbieratchet on Jun 4, 2024 10:50:27 GMT -5
Robbie - I think you're on record as saying you won't vote for the guy - has that changed, and if so is it because of this sham criminal proceding? Joe Biden is one of the nastiest, meanest, most loathsome men to ever hold office in this country. The image of "friendly working-class Uncle Joe" is one of the wildest lies ever perpetrated on the American electorate. I only hope that there is a special place in Hell reserved for him, and that he gets to take up residence there sooner rather than later. I live in Florida, so it doesn't matter. If I lived in a swing state I would. He spent time attacking Bob Good last night. It's shit like this that pisses me off - what a petty, vindictive child he is. We have like 10 congressmen who even pretend to give a fuck about our country. Bob Good is one of them. Yet he made the unforgiveable mistake of endorsing DeSantis for Prez, so now Trump has endorsed his primary opponent and is attacking him on Truth Social. His campaign also sent Good a "cease and desist" letter, as Good is apparently using yard signs that imply his backing (he was endorsed last time by Trump). Pathetic. His nationwide endorsements have been mostly trash too. Hey Donny - save your energy for the commies trying to put you in prison forever. And further, his Twitter ban was lifted last year - August of '23 I think. What the hell is he still doing being only on Truth Social? He should be tweeting all day long, and about a billion people would see it. He can post on Truth Social as well, but he's too stubborn to just use both. It tells me he really hasn't learned a damn thing. Drives me nuts.
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Post by md717 on Jun 4, 2024 12:47:02 GMT -5
Robbie - I think you're on record as saying you won't vote for the guy - has that changed, and if so is it because of this sham criminal proceding? Joe Biden is one of the nastiest, meanest, most loathsome men to ever hold office in this country. The image of "friendly working-class Uncle Joe" is one of the wildest lies ever perpetrated on the American electorate. I only hope that there is a special place in Hell reserved for him, and that he gets to take up residence there sooner rather than later. I live in Florida, so it doesn't matter. If I lived in a swing state I would. He spent time attacking Bob Good last night. It's shit like this that pisses me off - what a petty, vindictive child he is. We have like 10 congressmen who even pretend to give a fuck about our country. Bob Good is one of them. Yet he made the unforgiveable mistake of endorsing DeSantis for Prez, so now Trump has endorsed his primary opponent and is attacking him on Truth Social. His campaign also sent Good a "cease and desist" letter, as Good is apparently using yard signs that imply his backing (he was endorsed last time by Trump). Pathetic. His nationwide endorsements have been mostly trash too. Hey Donny - save your energy for the commies trying to put you in prison forever. And further, his Twitter ban was lifted last year - August of '23 I think. What the hell is he still doing being only on Truth Social? He should be tweeting all day long, and about a billion people would see it. He can post on Truth Social as well, but he's too stubborn to just use both. It tells me he really hasn't learned a damn thing. Drives me nuts. I can't disagree with a word of that.
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Post by nephillymike on Jun 5, 2024 19:17:21 GMT -5
Yeah, MD, I too have no disagreement with Robbies last post.
Trump is a fucking child.
To answer your question about when I actually decided I had to vote for him, it was about a month before the verdict. I was having beers with two good friends of mine. One lawyer and one CPA. They were suffering big time from Trump derangement syndrome and one of the two is to the right of me politically. It comes down to where you get your news. While defending the asshole Trump, I realized I have to vote for him if I want a chance to save the democracy.
I just got too tired of the Pravda handling of Biden, the weaponized DOJ and other agencies and I came to the realization that it was likely that only someone like Trump could stop it. I think this is a bigger risk than asshole Trump in charge.would be.
The Republicans are fucking stupid. All they had to do is have someone convince the Party that they were Trump without the baggage. Vivek coulda been someone if he wasn’t so abrasive. Man he would have got his ass kicked growing up. Shame because his Ten Commandments are spot on.
BTW, unless Trump crashes in the polls, there’s no way the Dems let Sleepy Joe run. He’s done. All this planning and you think the deep state will put their hopes on him?
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Post by One on Jun 5, 2024 20:44:36 GMT -5
Biden will get the nomination even if he campaigns and debates with a drool towel because he hasn't been the president and he won't be if he's fraudulently elected again. It's his absence of any mental acuity that makes him the right choice. Promises of wealth and protection secure the strings to his puppet master. No matter how the election unfolds, no matter which bad choice wins, the America before Y2k is gone and we'll more closely resemble a third world keg of dynamite. If it's Trump, his first term will look like a dress rehearsal with what the corrupt media, administration state, and leftist dark warriors will do. It will be a civil war, the only question is how severe. And if Biden et al claims victory again we'll likely witness guerilla action from the right. The only way the country doesn't explode is if Trump is in office, replaces the Obama military leaders and declares martial law when the left produces George Floyd Part Deux. I don't know, maybe I'm overreacting, but this trial wasn't the game breaker for me, that happened years ago. I don't remember exactly what it was, but whatever, it was a kick in the gut like I've never felt before. There's no legitimate opposition to what the Democrats are doing. Maybe Trump because he's been so relentlessly attacked and abused. I don't defend him, I blame his political existence on the weak-kneed Republicans (aka Uniparty) and the absurdly ignorant populace. If anyone believes the Republicans will fight for the people they'll believe a Republican super majority in Congress will do as promised and repeal Obamacare. Rhetorical: why don't the people demand better candidates and why do we continue to vote for the mendacious scum we allow to use us to gain wealth and immunity? Ayaan Hirsi Ali breaks it down
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Post by robbieratchet on Jun 7, 2024 14:37:48 GMT -5
Rhetorical: why don't the people demand better candidates and why do we continue to vote for the mendacious scum we allow to use us to gain wealth and immunity? Because we aren't suffering enough to give a shit. How many people here participate in primaries? None of us, including me. It's relatively easy to get compromised politicians out if we actually show up and vote in primaries. Not every election is stolen. I'd wager most of the GOP base hates Mitch McConnell. In fact, we hate him so much that 82% of the 413,000 Kentuckians who voted in the 2020 primary voted for him, with Wesley Morgan (an actual patriot) finishing in 2nd with over 25k votes. Then, naturally, in the general election another additional 900,000 Kentuckians stopped scratching their balls and watching college basketball long enough to go vote (R) so McConnell could defeat his communist opponent and spend the next 6 years giving them the finger. I'd wager most of the GOP base hates Lindsey Graham. In fact, we hate him so much that 68% of the 469k people who voted in the 2020 primary voted for him, with 3 significantly better options finishing with a combined 150k votes. Then, naturally, in the general election another additional 1 MILLION people stopped scratching their balls and watching the Gamecocks lose to go vote (R) so Graham could defeat his communist opponent and spend the next 6 years giving them the finger. I could probably do this all day for the next week and not even cover 25% of elected GOP reps. That's why. P.S., whoever Trumps picks as his VP should simply be assassination insurance, e.g. Vivek or someone. Whoever he picks it'll tell me a lot about how much he's learned and his willingness to get dirty. If he picks Tim Scott, we might as well just hold our nose and hope we still have an electoral chance in 4 years.
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Post by One on Jun 8, 2024 8:47:01 GMT -5
Rhetorical: why don't the people demand better candidates and why do we continue to vote for the mendacious scum we allow to use us to gain wealth and immunity? How many people here participate in primaries? None of us, including me. It's relatively easy to get compromised politicians out if we actually show up and vote in primaries. Not every election is stolen. I'm in Pennsylvania and I'm not registered with either party - Republican or Democrat. Consequently, I'm not permitted to vote in primary elections. Stolen, fixed, fraudulent, whatever.
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Post by robbieratchet on Jun 8, 2024 10:37:53 GMT -5
How many people here participate in primaries? None of us, including me. It's relatively easy to get compromised politicians out if we actually show up and vote in primaries. Not every election is stolen. I'm in Pennsylvania and I'm not registered with either party - Republican or Democrat. Consequently, I'm not permitted to vote in primary elections. Stolen, fixed, fraudulent, whatever. Well, there you go then. I guess there's nothing at all you can do about it. Just keep choosing between Dr. Oz and a vegetable every 6 years.
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