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Post by One on Dec 31, 2023 20:54:09 GMT -5
At this point, I'd even include Sirianni in the must go column . Maybe I'm overreacting because of the disgrace of a game I watched today, but it was really not too different from the entire season except the team lost the magic of turning shit into gold. Sirianni is the CEO coach who hired the coordinators and who wasn't able to fix problems that were evident from the first game, amplified by a Jets loss, and followed by bad play the entire season. It was broke and he couldn't fix it. What makes anyone think he can fix it in an off season? His immature nature on the sidelines only created animosity from other teams and probably their coaches. In short, he was as much the problem as the schemes and the play calling. The talent carried the team, not the coaching. Happy New Year
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Post by robbieratchet on Jan 1, 2024 13:57:32 GMT -5
At this point, I'd even include Sirianni in the must go column . Maybe I'm overreacting because of the disgrace of a game I watched today, but it was really not too different from the entire season except the team lost the magic of turning shit into gold. Sirianni is the CEO coach who hired the coordinators and who wasn't able to fix problems that were evident from the first game, amplified by a Jets loss, and followed by bad play the entire season. It was broke and he couldn't fix it. What makes anyone think he can fix it in an off season? His immature nature on the sidelines only created animosity from other teams and probably their coaches. In short, he was as much the problem as the schemes and the play calling. The talent carried the team, not the coaching. Happy New Year Yeah, I'm on that train now. You can't blame your coordinators forever. The play calling is completely on him now, not Johnson. They scapegoated Desai and replaced him with a guy I just can't believe keeps getting work in the NFL. Matt Patricia must have pictures of Goodell diddling kids or something. This is the kind of collapse that can lose you the locker room. The last game of the season could be very telling where that is.
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Post by rumply on Jan 1, 2024 16:54:13 GMT -5
It's Howies team & on him to fix it. All 3 top coaching positions should be vacated as soon as the season ends for the Birds, which we all know will be on wildcard weekend as this team aint winning shit from here.
There's also the issue of wanting to hang on to key players, some of who by now must be contemplating their futures with this team. The front office has to act decisively this offseason.
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Post by robbieratchet on Jan 1, 2024 17:27:47 GMT -5
It's Howies team & on him to fix it. All 3 top coaching positions should be vacated as soon as the season ends for the Birds, which we all know will be on wildcard weekend as this team aint winning shit from here. There's also the issue of wanting to hang on to key players, some of who by now must be contemplating their futures with this team. The front office has to act decisively this offseason. I'm not a huge fan of being trigger happy, and certainly would usually not want to axe a coach one year removed from a SB appearance. But the way this collapse has gone is very troubling. When you lose the locker room, there's no going back. And his stubbornness in continuing to let Johnson call plays seals the deal. Minus a miraculous turnaround and a playoff win or two, fire 'em all.
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Post by rumply on Jan 1, 2024 19:13:17 GMT -5
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Post by rumply on Jan 2, 2024 1:54:53 GMT -5
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Post by rumply on Jan 2, 2024 1:56:08 GMT -5
Looks like this site cant handle tweets anymore.
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Post by One on Jan 2, 2024 9:55:07 GMT -5
Lurie may decide to keep Sirianni and just replace the coordinator(s). Defense has to be a given, offense should be, plus they really need a far more creative offense. I'm sick of seeing defenses know what the play call is. They both should be proven coordinators, no more rookies.
That said, I think Sirianni has to be replaced with a smart, offensive minded coach whose system is successful. The ability to multi-task would be nice too. With the talent we have a successful OC will likely be hired away like Steichen was.
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Post by robbieratchet on Jan 2, 2024 10:58:37 GMT -5
Lurie may decide to keep Sirianni and just replace the coordinator(s). Defense has to be a given, offense should be, plus they really need a far more creative offense. I'm sick of seeing defenses know what the play call is. They both should be proven coordinators, no more rookies. That said, I think Sirianni has to be replaced with a smart, offensive minded coach whose system is successful. The ability to multi-task would be nice too. With the talent we have a successful OC will likely be hired away like Steichen was. Isn't that the single most important part of Sirianni's job, putting the coaching pieces in place? Especially if he isn't play calling? I'm not sure Lurie fires him, but how can you force him to axe two new coordinators while keeping the HC? It sucks because it's so glaringly obvious that this team is being completely held back by coaching.
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Post by rumply on Jan 2, 2024 19:56:57 GMT -5
Any interest if someone like Jim Harbaugh put his hand up for HC?
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Post by robbieratchet on Jan 2, 2024 22:10:47 GMT -5
Any interest if someone like Jim Harbaugh put his hand up for HC? It's a condition of his contract that he doesn't accept an NFL offer for 2024. Not that he would want to leave his fighting for a National Title in college to babysit this dumpster fire.
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Post by rumply on Jan 3, 2024 1:15:49 GMT -5
Any interest if someone like Jim Harbaugh put his hand up for HC? It's a condition of his contract that he doesn't accept an NFL offer for 2024. Not that he would want to leave his fighting for a National Title in college to babysit this dumpster fire. There was news the other day he'd hired a new agent with strong NFL ties, so who knows
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Post by robbieratchet on Jan 3, 2024 11:03:50 GMT -5
I don't really give a shit either way.
I'm just wondering how in a month we went from 10-1 to this. The only question in November was who gets home field, us or SF?
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Post by cteagle on Jan 3, 2024 11:11:04 GMT -5
I should probably wait until after the season to form an opinion on this but I am too pissed not to.
I want Sirianni and his coordinators gone. I have no faith in any of them and I think Sirianni has lost the locker room.
There is too much talent on this team for it to perform the way it has. This is not recent either. The problems were apparent since the beginning of the season. I kept thinking that it would get sorted but it has only gotten worse.
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Post by cteagle on Jan 3, 2024 11:13:35 GMT -5
I don't really give a shit either way. I'm just wondering how in a month we went from 10-1 to this. The only question in November was who gets home field, us or SF? I know the record said 10-1 but the Eagles were not a 10-1 quality team. They truly were very fortunate to win some of those games. A 10-1 team should have at least a couple of blowouts against bad teams. The Eagles have not done that. Alarm bells should be ringing anytime a team continuously has tight games against bad teams.
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Post by robbieratchet on Jan 3, 2024 17:45:05 GMT -5
I don't really give a shit either way. I'm just wondering how in a month we went from 10-1 to this. The only question in November was who gets home field, us or SF? I know the record said 10-1 but the Eagles were not a 10-1 quality team. They truly were very fortunate to win some of those games. A 10-1 team should have at least a couple of blowouts against bad teams. The Eagles have not done that. Alarm bells should be ringing anytime a team continuously has tight games against bad teams. A 10-1 team is a 10-1 team. We were all concerned that they were digging themselves holes to climb out of, but that has nothing to do with how they've collapsed the last few weeks. Maybe they can salvage the division title and get a playoff win at home, and go from there. If they don't, it'll be interesting to see what Lurie does. Also remember, if they got rid of everyone, then Jalen Hurts would be entering his 5th season with his 3rd HC and 4th OC. We would be having our FIFTH DC since 2020. That's not to be taken lightly.
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Post by One on Jan 3, 2024 20:43:00 GMT -5
I know the record said 10-1 but the Eagles were not a 10-1 quality team. They truly were very fortunate to win some of those games. A 10-1 team should have at least a couple of blowouts against bad teams. The Eagles have not done that. Alarm bells should be ringing anytime a team continuously has tight games against bad teams. A 10-1 team is a 10-1 team. We were all concerned that they were digging themselves holes to climb out of, but that has nothing to do with how they've collapsed the last few weeks. The biggest problem is that everyone saw it from the first game - fans, analysts, players and coaches - but it was never fixed. It seems that's one of really important things a HC has to do, recognize the problems and fix them. Coordinators have to do it with their units and the HC should hold them accountable for it. If Sirianni thought Desai was culpable he should have fired him and moved on, right or wrong. To me that's a signal that he's not holding people accountable. It doesn't look like Desai was the biggest part of the problem, but if the CEO thinks he was then he needs to can him. If he doesn't, then don't emasculate him.
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Post by gadgetrick on Jan 4, 2024 7:35:53 GMT -5
It's obvious the league caught up with what Sirianni does on offense. I get that. However, would be nice if he did ANYTHING differently to fix the problems. But we see the same thing over and over.
Yes, the offense has played a little better lately (overall) but still same pass-first offense he's always run. They did run a bit more lately, which helps, but, you can just feel them wanting to pass pass pass. He is not comfortable running first to set up the pass.
But, the bigger problem is this shit defense. They have enough talent to be better than this--good enough to win for sure--but they play the same soft defense to stop the big play--this must come down from Lurie. Eveyrone sees this defense and asks why we have DBs back on all short downs. The defense plays with ZERO fire. Nobody swarms to the ball.
Front line is doing absolutely NOTHING to get pressure on the QB. They just rush 4 every play and the 4 just go straight up the field not even thinking about stopping a run. No stunts, no nothing. Just like the offense...plain vanilla.
When everyone sees the same problems you have to wonder how much is coming down from the owner.
They ran Dougie out of town because they wouldn't let him do his thing. I think that's part of what's going on here as well.
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Post by One on Jan 4, 2024 12:36:36 GMT -5
Agreed about Lurie, he's often been credited with wanting a passing offense because that's the way the league is structured. He should take a clue from the late Al Davis, "just win baby!"
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Post by cteagle on Jan 4, 2024 13:46:55 GMT -5
A 10-1 team is a 10-1 team. I get the whole Bill Parcels "You are what your record says you are" idea but I disagree with it. This team is a perfect example of it. Yes, the Eagles were 10-1 but they were not and are not, a quality football team. Having a good record does not make you a good team. It was predicted by many that the proverbial ball would stop bouncing our way and it has.
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Post by robbieratchet on Jan 4, 2024 21:19:11 GMT -5
I get the whole Bill Parcels "You are what your record says you are" idea but I disagree with it. This team is a perfect example of it. Yes, the Eagles were 10-1 but they were not and are not, a quality football team. Having a good record does not make you a good team. It was predicted by many that the proverbial ball would stop bouncing our way and it has. It was predicted by many, including myself, that we would eventually get bitten by digging ourselves into deep holes. In no way, shape, or form did any single person on the planet think we would be calling for Sirianni to be fired in late November, or think we would be playing for a potential 5th seed.
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Post by gadgetrick on Jan 5, 2024 7:07:25 GMT -5
I get the whole Bill Parcels "You are what your record says you are" idea but I disagree with it. This team is a perfect example of it. Yes, the Eagles were 10-1 but they were not and are not, a quality football team. Having a good record does not make you a good team. It was predicted by many that the proverbial ball would stop bouncing our way and it has. No, you are what your record is but the record is not an indication of how well you've played. Just an indication of how many games you've won. But, how they got there tells the story of a team in freefall... They are still an 11-5 team. They will still be in the playoffs. Whether they play well in the playoffs or not is to be seen. But this team is not hitting on all cylinders for sure. Looking like they won't be hitting on all cylinders this season. Hope they will but don't think it's happening.
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Post by cteagle on Jan 5, 2024 9:02:43 GMT -5
I get the whole Bill Parcels "You are what your record says you are" idea but I disagree with it. This team is a perfect example of it. Yes, the Eagles were 10-1 but they were not and are not, a quality football team. Having a good record does not make you a good team. It was predicted by many that the proverbial ball would stop bouncing our way and it has. No, you are what your record is but the record is not an indication of how well you've played. Just an indication of how many games you've won. But, how they got there tells the story of a team in freefall... That is what I said in my original post but others took exception to it.
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Post by rumply on Jan 5, 2024 15:52:46 GMT -5
I do find it interesting that this board is all but dead when things are going well but as soon as the Birds turn to shit, it starts moving again 😂
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Post by cteagle on Jan 5, 2024 17:58:05 GMT -5
I do find it interesting that this board is all but dead when things are going well but as soon as the Birds turn to shit, it starts moving again 😂 It is true. I did take a few days off from here after the Cards game but I have to admit, I like venting my frustrations here.
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Post by nephillymike on Jan 17, 2024 23:06:14 GMT -5
I do find it interesting that this board is all but dead when things are going well but as soon as the Birds turn to shit, it starts moving again 😂 so true Rumply, so true. I'm guilty too.
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